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To: opalapril who wrote (27)	11/20/2000 9:32:38 AM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 134

Bland was not speaking of the fate of the individual candidates, but of the larger public who supports them. Gore and Bush, and their fates, individually mean little. Gore, for instance, may very well be forced to eventually concede for the greater good of his party, if public opinion continues to turn against interminable petty delays in this process and if his position is proven to be untenable. Personally, he will be thoroughly disinclined to do so, but there is vastly more at stake than his personal will in the matter. Other powerful and ambitious members of the Democratic Party are fully aware of this and will not allow their larger credibility as responsible participants in this process to be completely eroded. Not for the sake of Gore as an individual and his place in history.

To: opalapril who wrote (27)	11/20/2000 10:05:01 AM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 134

Thank you for a most insightful and eye opening post!!!!! GZ

To: opalapril who wrote (27)	11/20/2000 2:16:12 PM
From: kodiak_bull	Respond to of 134

Opalapril, Very well put. In this particular election, though, the two men will face different fates. If Bush "loses" (I must use quotes, or perhaps an asterisk *), then he returns to be governor of Texas and perhaps to try again in 2004, depending on the final story which emerges from this election (Joe McGinnis, where are you?). It's unlikely, given the stuff going on right now, that Bush's power base will blame him for the outcome of this election, and it's possible he will be even stronger (a la Reagan in 1980 after losing the nomination to Ford); although you can't say the same for the Florida electorate and GW's brother. If Gore loses, it's not clear where he goes. He didn't carry his home state in the prez election, I wonder if they would even elect him to the Senate again. Maybe a seat in Congress. Unlike Bush, if Gore loses, he will be seen as someone who lost the White House for the Democrats and probably have a long row to hoe to get the 04 nomination. They'll be looking for a fresh face without so much of this campaign's baggage. Without this election, Gore's presidential hopes are finished, I believe, which indicates why he is so desperate to squeeze into the White House. If Gore loses he faces the same fate as Humphrey and Mondale did, senior status in the political equivalent of an assisted care facility. That is, an ambassadorship, an advisory spot at an investment bank, or a position with a lobbyist? Too bad he never finished his law degree, he could join Covington & Burling. He could return to his photojournalist roots, of course, and become a foreign correspondent. Gunga Al.