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To: Dan3 who wrote (118944)	11/22/2000 6:39:59 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Dan, <<<The issues on those machines are related to i/o bus bandwidth, not memory bandwidth. And (as has been pointed out here before) in those applications the CPU just acts as a traffic cop for DMA operations by smart peripherals. Where the CPU can be significant in such machines is in indexing (database server) and Java or ASP execution (server applets) - and I believe that those aren't strong points for P4 due to the many branches taken by those operations. The fact that P4 may be the first chip ever to trail Athlon into the MPU market doesn't help either>>> I normally try to comment on areas that I have some knowledge and experience. This is not an area that I am fully comfortable discussing, but I'm willing to learn. The marketing person I referred to is somebody that has substantial reputation, but he was talking way over my head. My understanding is that in most business environments, what most people do, the marketing sales people, the financial types, and people on the product fulfillment and inventory distribution side, use their computers as a client to corporate servers where they mine information from order entry, bill of material, and inventory databases and use their client computer to look endlessly at their universe of data. According to my source, (and this is what I understood I was told) this is the vast majority of the commercial market and that the P4 happens to be well suited for this market. You sound very authoritative to me. My question to you therefore, is can you describe some of the markets you understand real well, how big they are (rev $), their specific applications and how the P4 design fails those very specific applications. If this sounds repetitive to what you have already posted, I guess I'm asking for some specificity in terms of markets and applications. I'll concede to your expertise wrt to AI, voice recognition, and some legacy game programs that you state with some degree of self assuredness where initial P4 implementation may fall short. But I don't think in dollar terms those are huge money making markets in comparison to the business market. Again, this technical area is not anything that I know too much about and I do want to understand as much of it as I can. Thanks for your help. Mary