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To: Carl R. who wrote (136)	11/22/2000 11:26:51 PM
From: Zeev Hed	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 644

Carl, I agree with you, we are going toward "governmental de-stabilization". I hope we do not end up like Italy. I can see Bush winning this contest (either winner would be by attrition). But that will not be the end. In angry vengeance, and hate equal to Newt's, the democrats will rapidly dig into his past and bring up a civil suit on something (not the democrats per se, but some surrogates). Let say, for instance, Bush's infraction of the SEC laws, when he traded Harken Energy's stock on inside information. A group of "damaged investors", bring up a simple civil suit seeking damages (just like Jones sexual harassment suit). The then President, could easily be "tricked" to perjure himself under oath, and voila, with the precedent set of lowering the "bar" on impeachment, we get another impeachment proceedings going on. If the shoes is on the other foot and Gore wins by attrition, a civil suit maybe related to his OXY trust, or possibly a "damaged party" damaged due to his "Budhist Temple" activities, or maybe his "misuse" of government phone to raise money for the Dem party. We will get into a major diversion (and who knows, the reps surely have shown in the past that in hate they'd go to any length), impeachment and complete chaos. This is too bad, since in the next six months, we are going to have real trouble to handle rather than inter party bickering. There are major economic storms brewing in Asia which could bring a number of economies to the verge of financial crisis. There are ample of short term and long term hot spots around the world, not just in the middle East, but in the heart of Europe. I believe that during the next four five years, some right wing German factions are going to demand plebicites in those parts of Poland that were ceded to Poland after WWII (Silesia and around Gdansk). German interests have been buying land and factories in those territories since unification, and doing the best to "repopulate" these areas. In Western Poland (Silesia), it has become extremely difficult to get employment in factories, unless you can show "German Lineage". The unemployment amongst Poles in those parts reaches as high as 30%, I have been told. Three years ago, US News and World reports had a story about the repopulation of areas around Gdansk, but by some mysterious miracle, all discussions of these events have been removed from the public eyes and the media. A bomb ready to go IMHO. If our Government is ineffective, you can be assured that some dark forces are going to reignite all Europe, and the last 60 years of painful reconstruction will be for naught. The markets surely are not going to like such instabilities. Zeev

To: Carl R. who wrote (136)	11/23/2000 8:05:13 AM
From: Bosco	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 644

<ot>Hi Carl - happy Thanksgiving. My best to you & your family and all the people here. Regarding observers catching fraud, I am not blaming them at all. As I ve pointed out, it may be a good thing to practice "trust, but verify." However, I am blaming the handlers of both candidates, a bit more so reserved for Sec Baker, whose rhetoric have caused emotional schism in an already tersed situation. I mean, there are enough true believers [a la Hoffer] to begin with. Pouring gasoline on a burning car is not a good practice. Remember back in the 80s, when the Detroit area had a serious recession and people were blaming the Japanese car makers [and they didn't believe GM and others were producing lousy cars!] Anyway, a mob chased down a Chinese American and lynched him as a "Jap!" I thought of that when I read the Geller story. I mean, you and I have have differing opinions, but that doesn't stop us from carrying a civil and friendly discussion. Why can't the so called statemen like Sec Baker preach the kind of constructive behavior? Instead, they are using us as political pawns to do their bidding Back to the case, I can see you are taking the de facto GOP position with regard to FL SC. I suppose that is one way of interpreting it. However, whether the judges were making pragmatic decision [probably no one except them knows for sure.] I do not see it is out of the realm of their duties to be the referee of the situation. I mean, I certainly understand why you and others would stick to the SoS having the discretionary power argument. However, the counter argument is that this discretion has not accounted for the "will of the voters," or the certainty thereof, which also carries the full weight of the law. Thus, the judges have chosen to appropriate a compromise position. I think they will reject the appeal from the dems on the Dade county's decision not to continue manual count. I will be surprise the other side is willing to give the count due credit since it has already painted the FL SC as the dem sympathizer! It is this kind of polarization I fear the most. best, Bosco