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To: Scumbria who wrote (20277)	11/22/2000 11:06:20 PM
From: fyodor_	Respond to of 275872

<Scumbria: Cyrix M1 was the performance leader for a while> Yes, the M1 was a decent chip. It's been a looooonnnggg while, though ;). If AMD lapses and doesn't have an even remotely competitive chip for 4 years (or whatever) running - followed by a more or less complete withdrawal from the x86 market, I'll come out and claim that "AMD chips just plain sucked". <The MediaGX was the first chip to make a significant dent in Intel's OEM stranglehold, and opened up the door for AMD.> If this was indeed the case, it is not something I was aware of. In my defense, I wasn't in the US at the time and the Internet was... ermm.. not quite as developed, so following US OEM production was not something I did. (so, basically, I'm pleading ignorance!) -fyo

To: Scumbria who wrote (20277)	11/22/2000 11:10:56 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

RE:"Cyrix M1 was the performance leader for a while, and stayed very close to Intel for a year or two. I'm amazed that everyone has forgotten this so quickly" We haven't forgot it...the benchmarks strangely moved to more FPU intensive schemes (6x86 had a weak FPU as you know), the P-II came along and the shallow pipelined design just wouldn't scale. Mhz sells but even the Cyrixes PR rating couldn't seem to keep up... RE:"The MediaGX was the first chip to make a significant dent in Intel's OEM stranglehold, and opened up the door for AMD." To it's credit, the MediaGX freaked Andy Grove into wasting a whole lot of money on Timna. It also freaked Andys mind about the validity of the sub-$1000 market. Compaq was the first large OEM to use the MediaGX...but they quickly dropped it in favor of the K6...so yes it definitely opened the door for AMD in the Sub-$1000 market and ultimately freaked Intel into the Celeron...It also sent NSMs stock price into single digits (TM-Stockman) The MediaGX was one freakin' chip of historical proportions...<G>