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To: Dan3 who wrote (119056)	11/23/2000 1:39:21 AM
From: Hightechhooper	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

How many times does the record have to be played before people learn the words? Every time INTC has introduced a new architecture it has been highly critisized, it doesn't provide enough added performance for the money they say. No one will every buy it!! Then, INTC turns up the manufacturing heat and begins to crank up the clock speed very rapidly. Suddenly, there is a very noticable gap between old generation processors and the current ones and the upgrade cycle begins. The same thing is now beginning with P4. In a few months P4 will deliver 1.8 and 2.0 speeds and the performance gap between last generation and new generation will be much more noticeable. Don't these people get it? It is not just about the added benefits for video and audio. It's really about a new architecture that is highly scaleable...that is what P4 delivers. The added performance for tomorrows applications is nice but the rapid scaleability is what will make this processor family a success, just like it has for its predicessors. Wake me after the Q4 earnings warnings and just before the 2.0 intro...then things will get interesting.

To: Dan3 who wrote (119056)	11/23/2000 2:24:05 AM
From: Paul Engel	Respond to of 186894

Lewinsky-Dan - Re: "No, it doesn't. You are comparing the temperature of the heat sink (thermal plate) on the Slot A processors with the temperature of the .." Nope - you are WRONG AGAIN. Check out the original AMD AthWiper spec - I saved a copy if you want to see it. {=================================} 6.7 Operating Ranges The AMD Athlon processor is designed to provide functional operation if the voltage and temperature parameters are within the limits defined in Table 8. Table 8. Operating Ranges Parameter Description Min Max Notes VCC_CORE AMD Athlon™ processor core supply 1.5 V 1.7 V 1 VCC_CORE AMD Athlon™ processor core supply in Sleep state 1.2 V 1.7 V 2 VCC_SRAM 2.5 V SRAM core supply 2.475 V 2.625 V 3 VCC_SRAM 3.3 V SRAM core supply 3.15 V 3.45 V 4 T PLATE Temperature of thermal plate 70º C Notes: 1. For normal operating conditions (nominal VCC_CORE is 1.6 V) 2. For Sleep state operating conditions 3. Value of VCC_SRAM when VCC2SEL is High 4. Value of VCC_SRAM when VCC2SEL is Low {==========================================} And for the Pentium 4: 6.1 Thermal Specifications Table 29 specifies the thermal design power dissipation envelope for Pentium 4 processors. Analysis indicates that real applications are unlikely to cause the processor to consume its maximum possible power consumption. Intel recommends that system thermal designs target the “Thermal Design Power” indicated in Table 29. The Thermal Monitor feature (refer to Section 7.3) is intended to protect the processor from overheating when running high power code that exceeds the recommendations in this table. For more details on the usage of this feature, refer to Section 7.3. In all cases the Thermal Monitor feature must be enabled for the processor to be in specification. Table 29 also lists the maximum and minimum processor temperature specifications for T CASE . A thermal solution should be designed to ensure the temperature of the processor never exceeds these specifications. Table 29. Processor Thermal Design Power Processor and Core Frequency (MHz) Thermal Design Power (W)2 Minimum TCASE (°C) Maximum TCASE (°C) Notes 1.40 GHz 51.8 5 70 1 1.50 GHz 54.7 5 72 1 Paul