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To: Tony Viola who wrote (119116)11/24/2000 12:33:15 PM
From: Dan3  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: the AMD roadmap doesn't call for any 0.13 until late next year

My WAG is that AMD could ramp up their .13 anytime, but right now the yields are such that they'd get few if any more good die at .18 than .13 (despite the smaller die size at .13). And any time you move to a new shrink or process, you risk something going wrong that leaves a 2 month hole in your production schedule by the time the problem is fully known.

Since the surprise disappointment of P4, it turns out that AMD doesn't need anything faster than what it can get out of .18, so why not wait until they have more experience with .13 and can move to it risk free?

Intel is in the opposite position. They are simply not competitive on .18 (a mass move to P4 on .18 would reduce Intel's production capacity by 2/3s - they'd be hard pressed to ship 25 million chips in a quarter, even with the new capacity they've just added). So Intel has to ramp their .13 ASAP and pray that the yields they get are significantly greater than zero. Maybe they'll get great yields on a new shrink on a completely new process technology. Otherwise, 2001 is going to be a very long year for Intel.

JMHO,

Dan



To: Tony Viola who wrote (119116)11/24/2000 6:06:04 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Tony - Re: 'Dan, what you say may all be true, but I believe the AMD roadmap doesn't call for any 0.13 until late next year. Is that true? Companies don't often pull roadmap milestones way in (like a year). '

It isn't true !!

Blow Hard Dan jumped all over an incorrect YUK Wretchedster story - and is hell-bent-for-leather making a BIGGER FOOL out of himself.

Paul