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To: maceng2 who wrote (40779)	11/24/2000 6:39:34 PM
From: robnhood	Respond to of 436258

I notice some problems popping up here and there which IMHO, could be a harbinger of problems for the frizzlebun.. Iraq , wanting payment in euros. Iraq thinking about stopping oil exports altogether. Iran proposing muslim countries stop exporting oil in retaliation to Israel, and it's allies. Russia agreeing to sell arms to Iraq, in defiance of the US wishes. Venezuela, making oil deals with Cuba, and other Latin American countries against the wishes of the USA. The Hegemony is suffering a little bit of "up yours" by the looks of it. None the less, the buck remains a pillar of strength right now.

To: maceng2 who wrote (40779)	11/24/2000 7:02:52 PM
From: wsringeorgia	Respond to of 436258

Pearly, I guess its all the Confederate blood in me; that I was born with! Fair enough, the ole USA can "rule supreme", but she should limit such expression to her native soil. In the local senate race debates here in Georgia I watched Mattingly (the repub who was defeated by Zell Miller, the dem ex-gov.) lay heavy emphasis on protecting "our oil" in the Middle East. Now Mattingly is getting some age on him and maybe never was a skillful public speaker, but he came across as a little crude and insenseitive to say the least (you would really have had to to hear it to get my meaning). As a practical matter that oil over there is not "our oil" nor is anything else over there ours; those are sovereign nations last I heard and the minerals, the water, air ect. belong to them. I guess as a legal technicality at some point the oil belongs to us, after it is loaded or paid for in full. The point I am making is that there is a shade of difference (heck, a BIG difference) between the points of view of a conservative like Mattingly and a "progressive futurist one-worlder" like myself. WSR