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To: niceguy767 who wrote (20449)11/24/2000 11:01:09 PM
From: MaverickRespond to of 275872
 
SSB:pickup in demand & price for T-bird 900MHz
November 20, SUMMARY
2000 * The spot market demand for free tee-shirts at COMDEX was
apparently far stronger than demand for microprocessors last
Jonathan week. Average Intel processor prices fell about 1% to a 7%
Joseph discount to list, though Pentium prices were mixed and on
average rose about 1% to a 5% discount to list as the market
anticipated the P4 introduction.
Dunham Winoto * Average AMD processor prices also fell by about 1% last
week, though there was some pickup in demand for certain
speed grades, like the T-bird 900MHz.
* DRAM spot prices declined again last week, with 64Mbs
falling from $3.50 to end the week on a firm note at $3.15;
128Mbs fell about $1.00 to about $7.40, on average.
"Unbranded" parts were trading about 10-15% lower.

Average prices for Intel's CPUs dropped only slightly from last week to a
discount of 7% to list compared to 6% the week before. However, this was
aided primarily by Intel's unscheduled price move last weekend on the P-III
650 and 700MHz processors. Processors from AMD (AMD, 2S) also dropped about
1% last week, though some prices, like the Thunderbird 900MHz, actually rose
slightly on the week.

Monday (today), Intel (INTC, 2M) is expected to formally launch its much
awaited Pentium 4 processor, and several PC manufacturers should announce
systems simultaneously. Of course, all these systems are based on Intel's 850
chipset that supports only Rambus DRAM. Never mind that some tests have shown
the new P4 with Rambus is actually running slower than the Pentium III with
SDRAM. As we have mentioned before, the P4 is a good news, bad news story for
Intel. It does recapture for them the speed leadership from AMD, with the
initial P4s running at 1.4GHz and 1.5GHz (press reports are pricing the
products at $644 and $819, respectively), compared to AMD's Thunderbird,
which runs at 1.2GHz. On the other hand, Intel is pulling the P4 program
forward, which will weigh heavily on gross margins because initial yields
will be low and the die size will be considerably greater than the Coppermine
PIII. In addition, it will subsidize every purchase of RDRAM-based Pentium 4
with a $70 rebate. We are forecasting only 100,000, or so, units this quarter
(compared to 34.5 million total processors) ramping up to several million
units per quarter by Q2. There will be several new developments for Intel
over the next six months. The company should introduce the 0.13-micron
version of the PIII processor, called Tualatin, some time by Q2. It will also
introduce a DDR-capable chipset by mid-2000, though VIA Technologies should
have its own DDR chipset out some time in Q2, under a licensing agreement
with Intel.



To: niceguy767 who wrote (20449)11/25/2000 12:47:29 PM
From: fyodor_Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 275872
 
<niceguy: the best INTC can offer is a next generation P4 with less than the previous generation's performance capabilities>

Oh gimme a break, ng. That's BS and you know it. The P4 is without a doubt a better, faster chip than the P3.

-fyo