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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: long-gone who wrote (7450)	11/25/2000 2:54:22 PM
From: Slugger	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

TRANSCRIPTS FROM BROWARD RECOUNT SHOW HUNT FOR GORE VOTES AS RACE TIGHTENS! As Broward County elections officials pressed to finish their review of disputed presidential ballots, transcripts of the canvassing board recount sessions show member Suzanne Gunzburger, a Democrat [pictured left], blatantly hunting for more Gore votes! MORE Gunzburger: I Can See The Light - If You Hold It Just Right JUDGE LEE: 5A 11 is a slight dimple on the spot. I have to try to remember these. Judge Rosenberg. JUDGE ROSENBERG: Cannot be ascertained with reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I disagree on this one because it's pushed more than a slight and there is light visible in the bottom. I've read some of the opinions that says when there is light visible that it is a punch for a candidate. JUDGE LEE: I don't see it. JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't see any light visible. MR LICHTMAN (Democratic Attorney): Hold it up. I can see it from here. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: Turn it around. JUDGE LEE: You're right. You can see it. All right. I agree with the Commissioner, 5A 11 is a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1390 - 1391) Gunzburger Changes Her Own Liberal Standards From Daylight To Dents JUDGE LEE: 29C 3. JUDGE ROSENBERG: No clear intent. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: No. Wait. Let me look. The other votes are Democratic and I'm looking, there is a dent on the No. 3, and I would say it's a Gore. JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg. It remains an under vote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1432) Gunzburger Caught Mishandling Ballots - Twisting And Bending Ballots Until The Light Shines Through JUDGE LEE: Number three. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a clear vote for Gore. It's like a garage door. MR CARROLL (Republican Attorney): I ask you not to bend the ballot, please. GOVERNOR: Don't bend the ballot. MR. POZZOVLI (sic) (Republican Attorney): You may not bend the ballot. JUDGE LEE: I agree that's a vote for Gore. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1516) Gunzburger Is Seeing So Much Light, She's Seeing Spots (However, She's The Only One Seeing It) JUDGE LEE: Moving on, moving on to 14J. There is only one disputed ballot, and it is number one. MS. ANGULO: You mean 15J? JUDGE LEE: No 14J. That was just 13. JUDGE ROSENBERG: This is 14J dash one. No reasonable certainty on that ballot. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I believe I can see light on three sides, and it's a clear vote for Gore. JUDGE LEE: I Agree with judge Rosenberg. That's an undervote. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1504) Gunzburger: Some Other Votes Are Democratic - Must Be A Gore Vote! JUDGE LEE: 10A 1, no reasonable certainty. COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I haven't looked. JUDGE LEE: I'm justng Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1438) Again, Gunzburger Attempts To Interpret Voter Intent Where Voter Intent Is Simply Not Known JUDGE LEE: G5 JUDGE ROSENBERG: (No Comment) COMMISSIONER GUNZBURGER: I see a line on the bottom that's been punched out. I think it's a vote for Gore, based on the fact that the rest of the card is, also. JUDGE LEE: So going back to this on, Judge Rosenberg, G5. JUDGE ROSENBERG: I don't think it's a reasonable certainty. JUDGE LEE: I agree with Judge Rosenberg on G5. (Broward County Canvassing Board, Esquire Deposition Services, November 23, 2000, p. 1489) drudgereport.com

To: long-gone who wrote (7450)	11/25/2000 3:27:42 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

No numbers support your theory of Indian killings. The numbers of Indians killed- by outright massacre, and relocation, so grossly outweigh the miniscule number of whites killed I fail to see why you even bother. The Indians were indeed great warriors, but in a completely different fashion. And they were vastly out numbered, and they did not have the military establishment and tradition that the whites had. Political correctness has nothing to do with it. Great warriors do not win a war- superior military force, supply chains, and technology does- none of which the Indians had. I had to suffer through 9 units of Indian studies to meet my general education requirements- and the reading I had to do in this area was very depressing. You can't quote the number of whites killed by Indians because it isn't collected and the data isn't reliable- reports of atrocities committed by Indians were often manufactured. But there are estimates of how many Indians were killed JUST on the Trail of Tears. Even you could find those numbers.