To: mightylakers who wrote (4960 ) 11/26/2000 1:25:52 PM From: Eric L Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 197155 Lakers, << Well, you are partially right >> Good. I like to be at least partially right. <g> << If you are talking about whether a user want that dual mode ability then you are right >> I was not exactly talking about dual mode ability. I may not have made my point clearly, and still may not be doing so. I was really talking about an existing GSM operator installing a cdma overlay to take advantage of the spectral efficiency it offers as compared to the GSM air interface or the GSM air interface with a GPRS data overlay. Interoperability with a cdma network, for roaming, is a separate, although possibly related consideration. No major GSM carrier will want to give up complete interoperability with other GSM carriers as it relates to roaming, 2 way SMS, and GSM data services. I am not sure that shipping Qualcomm chipsets achieve this, and certainly none that offer 1xMC do. << The air interface in MC-MAP is still backward compatible with IS-95 >> My point was that while shipping 2G CDMA chipsets can authenticate to a GSM network and are fully backward compatible with IS-95, they are not fully backward compatible with GSM to the degree that any GSM network operator would care to implement an overlay on a commercial basis today. The IS-2000 related cross modal specifications address this. It is now up to manufacturers (and Qualcomm) to commercialize this capability. I suspect they will. My impression is that simply having a SIM/R-UIM I/O in a handset doesn't get us quite where we need to be to realize the dream of commercialization of the (so far) elusive "CDMA Overlay". I do think we are getting closer, and of course I could be all or partially wrong. - Eric -