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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (7602)	11/26/2000 6:24:13 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

As you know Karen, I am a lone wolf, a rugged (yet sweet and tender) individualist- I do not look favorably on bandwagons (even the kind that might let me on)- but we can walk shoulder to shoulder, if you like, and sing the Happy Wanderer together while we eat pickles- will that do?

To: Lane3 who wrote (7602)	11/26/2000 7:39:07 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Karen... maybe you need to reread that article. That is CLEARLY not what I meant. It was quite clear that he was quoting LBJ. But Begala clearly used the LBJ comment and example out of context and with the purpose of implying something more sinister. He did it for a purpose, and with the intent of trying to espouse the mistaken belief that Republicans were more bigoted that their democratic counterparts in the south. He SAID NOTHING ABOUT how detailing how democrats were also guilty of these same segregationist policies, if not there predominant defenders of segregation. The complexity he was claiming to refer to in that "sea of red" refers to how BOTH parties, if they wanted to get elected, had to play to the culturally popular (at that time) view on segregation. LBJ, to his credit, took a major step in bringing forth civil rights legislation, but he was not the first president to take on the powerful democratic southern segregationalists. In fact, Dwight Eisenhower several times sent troops into the south to enforce desegregation against intransigent democratic segregationalists. And it was the party of Lincoln that played the greatest role in advancing abolitionist policies during the civil war, the republican party. Yeah... that sea of red used to be a sea of blue and devoutly segregationalist. That "beloved south" that Begalas bemoans has having been swung to the republican side by Nixon's cynical "southern strategy" used to all vote democratic. Folks like Trent Lott, Strom Thurmond, Phil Gramm, and Jesse Helms were all Democrats who were wooed to the Republican party. But outside of those 4 named individuals, I would be surprised if there were many formerly democratic segregationalists left in Republican office. But neither should it be seen that Republicans were so eager to cloak themselves in segregationalist values merely because they exploited LBJ's civil rights policies as a means of expanding their presence in this region that was previously all too dominated by democratic politics. about.ferris.edu Yes... that Sea of Red is very complex. Much more complex that Mr. Begala was willing to explore, or apologize for. And what is most important is that political leaders who use the politics of divide and conquer, or of hatred and intolerance, will have little place in George Bush's administration. Regards, Ron