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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Frank Griffin who wrote (7646)	11/26/2000 9:18:29 PM
From: epicure	Respond to of 10042

NPR had a correspondent on who said that tourists came to watch the recounts. Democrats and Republicans who came to watch felt that they were watching something healthy. It is only the partisan that see a crisis here where there is none. This will work itself out- and the great majority of people will quietly watch it work itself out.

To: Frank Griffin who wrote (7646)	11/26/2000 9:24:37 PM
From: david james	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Do you also realize how many are upset - and no doubt a few Republicans - that Bush has made every attempt to block a complete vote in Florida? The feeling by many on the other side is that Bush has, as you put it: "hurt the prestige of the country. He has hurt the confidence of the people in the election process. He has damaged public confidence in the impartiality of the judicial. He has set a very bad example" I see that both sides feel this way. Right now, my feeling is that all these Republican claims are trying very hard to push me towards becoming a stronger supporter for Gore, by their outragous comments - and a complete inability to understand the other point of view. But I will maintain that neither candidate deserved this election. It is a statistical tie, and there is no way, short of another national election, to prove who really should be elected into office.

To: Frank Griffin who wrote (7646)	11/26/2000 9:27:06 PM
From: calgal	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Bush Certified Winner of Florida; Gore To Contest Results Sunday, November 26, 2000 Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris certified Texas Gov. George W. Bush as the winner of Florida's 25 electoral votes late Sunday, but pending legal challenges mean the fight for the 2000 presidential election continues. Dave Martin/Reuters Sunday: Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris certifies Bush the winner of the state's presidential election. The Gore campaign vowed to fight on with contests of the election results in select Florida counties and Gore himself is expected to make an address to the nation at noon on Monday. According to the certified results, Bush prevailed in Florida by a margin of 537 votes. "On behalf of the state elections canvassing commission and in accordance with the laws of the state of Florida, I hereby declare Governor George W. Bush the winner of Florida's 25 electoral votes," Harris said. The declaration set off cheers from Bush supporters outside the state capitol in Austin, Texas. Harris did not include hand recounted ballots from Palm Beach County, where Gore had gained a net of 180 votes on Bush. She said Bush had 2,912,790 votes and Gore had 2,912,253. Gore's running mate Sen. Joe Lieberman quickly attacked Harris' certification. He argued that "any reasonable standard" would demonstrate that the certified tally "is inaccurate." He said that he and Gore have "no choice but to contest these actions" by Secretary Harris. "It is in our nation's interest that the winner in Florida is truly the person who got the most votes," Lieberman said. He said nobody knows who that would be — although Republicans insist it is Bush and Democrats say Gore. Former Secretary of State James Baker, spokesman for the Bush campaign, also reacted to the secretary's certification. "Here's where we stand tonight," Baker said. "Governor Bush and Secretary Cheney have won this election." Baker called on the Gore camp to drop any contests, arguing that after the Harris certification the time has come to move on. Meanwhile, the United States Supreme Court will hear a challenge from the Bush camp on Friday on the question of whether or not the Florida Supreme Court overstepped its bounds in calling for an extension of the ballot filing deadline. Gore Will Fight On Gore attorney David Boies said both before and after Sunday's 5 p.m. deadline that the campaign is preparing contests of the election results. Charles Rex Arbogast/AP Sunday: Judge Charles Burton, chairman of the Palm Beach County Canvassing Board, holds up a disputed ballot to New York Gov. George Pataki, right, as the count continues into the early hours of Sunday morning. Boies said the Gore camp would contest the results in Miami-Dade, Nassau, and Palm Beach counties. Boies cited significant numbers of "undervotes" — ballots where machines were unable to determine if a voter cast a vote for any candidate — that have not been counted in the manual recounts. Boies cautioned that "it won't be until [Sunday night] that we have a complete view of what happened" and know the exact nature of their legal action. But he indicated that they will be contesting Miami-Dade County, where 388 votes were counted before that county stopped its recount. If those 388 votes are not part of the total certified by Katherine Harris, Boies said they will contest the results there. They were "clearly legal votes," he said. In addition to the undervotes, Boies said the Gore camp is also looking at whether or not the Palm Beach canvassing board applied the correct standard in counting ballots. Sunday Deadline Upheld Earlier Sunday, Palm Beach County election officials had requested an extension of the court-imposed 5 p.m. deadline from Harris, hoping for more time to complete their hand count. Marta Lavandier/AP Sunday: Judge Robert W. Lee shows the last ballot to view during the manual recount at the Broward County Courthouse. Canvassing board chairman Judge Charles Burton said that more time was needed to complete the recount in part because the number of questionable ballots had created an "extraordinary and unprecedented challenge" for the ballot counters. The Palm Beach County canvassing board was unable to get through as many as 1,000 ballots. But a spokesman with the Bush campaign called the request for an extension "outrageous," telling Fox News "considering the fact the canvassing board took several days off, including Thanksgiving, and also worked only half days several days last week, it is disingenuous of the board to come at the last minute to ask for an extension. It's time for this process to end." Harris denied the board's request, telling both the Bush and Gore camps that she did not have the authority to grant an extension. The slim margin of victory compelled Bush lawyers to file their own county-level lawsuits in an effort to squeeze more votes out of overseas military ballots. Broward County finished its hand recount just before midnight Saturday. The Broward count cut 567 votes from Bush's statewide lead, but some of Gore's gains in Broward were offset by a review of military ballots in other counties that helped Bush. Wilfredo Lee/AP Saturday: Judge Robert Rosenberg takes a break from examining disputed ballots in Broward. Palm Beach board members did not count dimpled votes for a presidential candidate if votes for other races on the ballot were clearly punched. Gore, hoping to pick up votes through the dimpled ballots, has argued that an indentation on the cardboard ballot indicates voter intent. The county's dimpled ballots could be an issue in one of several law suits the Gore camp is likely to file. Both Republican and Democratic lawyers are ready with lawsuits. Both sides said official certification of the election results would not be the final word on the closest White House race in 124 years. The planned legal wrangling means that regardless of Sunday's deadline, the nation may not know its 43rd president until sometime in December. — The Associated Press contributed to this report. foxnews.com