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To: HighTech who wrote (32156)11/27/2000 3:21:28 PM
From: haqihana  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
HiTech, The Pilgrims and the Hugenots came to this hemisphere to escape religious persecution in Europe but, that had nothing to do with the rebellion against British rule. It was about oppressive taxes, and taxation without representation. The taking up of arms to fight tyranny, and oppression, is a personal thing and a Christian has as much right to fight against these evils as any other person. The Bible neither proposes, nor opposes, such action by individuals.

If you are trying to hit a lick against Christians, you are using the wrong stick, and are, apparently, showing your lack of knowledge about American history. ~H~



To: HighTech who wrote (32156)11/27/2000 3:21:50 PM
From: nihil  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
I don't know of any detailed studies of the religious differences between the rebels and the royalists (loyalists) in the colonies. I know that only one minister of religion was a member of the Continental Congress (John Knox Witherspoon (a relative of mine) -- Presbyterian of New Jersey). Allegedly the 2d Continental was composed largely of Deists rather than Churchmen. The Declaration of Independence was based largely on secular English thought which justified revolution against the British crown with in the 17th century had asserted the "Divine Right of Kings" and exclusive privileges for the Church of England which whose head was the King. Supposedly most of the Church of England (established church in much of the southern colonies) and lived on compulsory tithes, supported the King.
In New York and the South many of the most recent immigrants supported the King, although they had religious differences with the King. I was just going through the records of my eponymous ancestor (one of 64 in that generation) who migrated from Holland in 1751. He signed, as did most immigrants, an oath of loyalty to the King. During the Revolution he sent a son off to fight for the loyalists (where he was killed). He died during the war, and left no guns in his rather large estate (several thousand pounds). His other sons remained in South Carolina. I suspect many of those who signed loyalty oaths kept their loyalty to the King and lost their property and were effectively exiled.
Of course, the Parliamentary revolution in 1640's had a very strong (Presbyterian and Independent) religious motivation, and was strongly opposed to the Church of England. The "Glorious Revolution" of 1689 was also primarily led by anti-CofE forces.



To: HighTech who wrote (32156)11/29/2000 1:09:54 AM
From: Colleen M  Respond to of 39621
 
HiTech,

Case in point:

"Northern Ireland"
Is it politics or religion?

From my perspective, for many years, there has been a political battle between England and Ireland over which country should be in possession of the land that Northern Ireland occupies. Although religion has been mentioned, I can clearly see that this is not the main objective for either side.

how do you account for the many Christians who came to America and took up Arms in defiance of the Brits?