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Politics : Why is Gore Trying to Steal the Presidency? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ellen who wrote (2471)	11/27/2000 1:37:45 PM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 3887

Ellen, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. I'll make it easy for you to see where you're wrong, and then maybe you should think twice about getting nasty. What we are talking about here are requests for absentee ballots. They aren't absentee ballots. They aren't applications for voter registration, either. Did the Republicans distribute absentee ballots? No. Did the Republicans order absentee ballots? No. Did the Republicans request absentee ballots? No. Did the Republicans collect absentee ballots? No. Did the Republicans deliver absentee ballots? No. Did the Republicans otherwise physically possess absentee ballots? No. Did the Republicans request an absentee ballot on behalf of an elector? No. Did the Republicans alter the voter registration application of another? No. Did the Republicans make a false declaration for assistance in voting? No. Don't quit your day job.

To: Ellen who wrote (2471)	11/27/2000 2:40:19 PM
From: The Philosopher	Respond to of 3887

Sorry, but you apparently can't read statutory language, or else you don't understand the process of getting an absentee ballot. 1. There must be some compensation involved. 2. Apparently the people at issue did NOT engage in "distributing, ordering, requesting, collecting, delivering, or otherwise physically possessing absentee ballots..." They distributed APPLICATIONS FOR absentee ballots. Two TOTALLY different processes and documents. If they had been filled out and signed the APPLICATIONS on behalf of voters, AND had been paid for that, there would be a violation of law. As volunteers, they could do it without any problem. Again, what they "fixed" (your term) was the APPLICATION, NOT the ballot. They did not request or order the ballots; the voters themselves did that. It is NOT illegal under these statutes to go to somebody's house and help them fill out the application as long as the individual signs it. In fact, I would bet there are lots of Democratic block captains who do precisely that for their home bound members. But I don't hear you complaining about that. If I send in an order to Penney's for a pair of pants, and say to charge it to my Penney's account but don't write my account number on the order form, but Penney's has the number in their computer, if they look up my name, match it to my account number, and write my number on the order form, does that mean that THEY "requested or ordered" the pants? Nope. I still did. I just didn't fill out the form completely. But I still made the request by my little old self. That's what happened here. You seem to think that helping somebody apply for an absentee ballot is a violation of law. By that reasoning, any election official who publishes instructions on how to get or fill out an absentee ballot application would be a felon. That ain't the law. So far you haven't pointed out a single combination of facts and law which create a criminal act. Want to try again?