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Politics : Why is Gore Trying to Steal the Presidency? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Herschel Rubin who wrote (2963)	11/29/2000 2:56:42 AM
From: The Duke of URL©	Respond to of 3887

with the aid of an accounting firm that specializes in elections and election fraud. He said more That wouldn't be Price-Lieberman, would it? :))

To: Herschel Rubin who wrote (2963)	11/29/2000 3:01:17 AM
From: Herschel Rubin	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 3887

As for when this GORING of the electoral process will end, I'd like to venture my speculation as to the final outcome and welcome others to venture their ideas: A key question is which watershed event will ultimately cause Fuerher Gore to concede: 1) Unfavorable court rulings, or 2) Florida Legislature hands 25 electoral votes to Bush, or 3) He finally loses significant support from the American public and key Democrytes and has no other choice to martyr himself as a victim of chad machines for the rest of his life. My guess would be option #3 above: That this debacle will be ended by a trickle of discontent that turns rapidly into a torrent. Against the backdrop of the various court sessions this week and next, we might soon see some defectors from the ranks of the re-counters decide to leak the true behind-the-scenes story about unbridled bias in the recount and possibly fraud. Then of course, we'll soon begin to see some high-ranking Democrats defect from the Gore party line. Of key significance is how many of Congressional Democrats have been conspicuously silent through this because they don't want to be on record as having supported the GORING of the electoral process. Their silence speaks volumes. Once Gore "officially" loses his support from key Democrats, it'll be like rats abandoning a sinking ship. And remember, while in Congress, Gore didn't develop a lot of chummy friendships (he's not as much of a likeable good-ol-boy as Clinton is), so he's not going to have a lot of friends when this all settles. Regarding the markets, I'm expecting a substantial market rebound when Gore concedes. There is more institutional cash on the sidelines than in Fall 1997, and it is waiting to be deployed. Bargain stocks abound and we're not heading for a recession. I would very much like to see a 500-point Nasdaq rebound on the day Gore concedes. That type of market reaction would not only confirm how much the market didn't like the uncertainty, but that the market has begun to loathe the prospect of a Gore presidency. Witness every time he went on the air in the past few weeks, the market tanked. As of today, the Nasdaq is down 19% since Election Day. That's a complete self-contained BEAR MARKET in two weeks! (Recall the standard definition of Correction is 10% drop and Bear Market is 20% drop) My guess is Gore may concede sometime next week after the Supreme Court reviews the Bush case and other unforeseen developments occur. Any other ideas about the timing of his concession speech from some of the great minds on this board? This is going to get real interesting. Parting shot: Gore's first grandson will be named "Chad" too!

To: Herschel Rubin who wrote (2963)	11/29/2000 4:04:16 PM
From: Ellen	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 3887

Now Bush is asking for full recounts. Oh the irony! dailynews.yahoo.com Republican George W. Bush (news - web sites)'s lawyers asked a Florida judge Wednesday to order that all 1.16 million ballots cast in Miami-Dade and Palm Beach counties in the Nov. 7 presidential election be shipped to the state capital for possible recounting, not just the disputed ballots requested by the Democrats. The request came a day after Leon County Circuit Court Judge Sanders Sauls granted a request by Democrat Al Gore (news - web sites)'s attorneys and ordered that nearly 14,000 disputed ballots from the two heavily Democratic counties be shipped under police guard to Tallahassee, where they will be held until a Saturday hearing on a possible recount. Gore's attorneys asked only for a recount of the two counties' ``undervotes,'' the ballots where counting machines could not any vote for president. Some had votes that could be detected by human eyes but they were not included in the certified tally that gave Republican George W. Bush a 537-vote lead out of 6 million cast in Florida, giving him the state's 25 electoral votes needed to claim the White House. Gore has asked that those ballots -- 10,750 from Miami-Dade and 3,308 from Palm Bach County -- be hand counted and included in Florida's total, which could allow him to overtake Bush's lead and claim the presidency. But Bush's attorneys said Wednesday that any review or recount should include all ballots cast in the two counties, nearly 700,000 in Miami-Dade and 462,000 in Palm Beach County. ``Many ballots that were subject to dispute during the manual recounts were not segregated into the limited category of ballots'' sought by the Democrats, Bush's lawyers said. ----- [Disclaimer: I voted for Gore as I preferred him over Bush to be President. I have always maintained that a full manual recount be completed so that the actual winner could be determined regardless of who won. I have previously stated and maintain that both sides could probably not withstand extreme scrutiny.]