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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Oak Tree who wrote (7996)	11/29/2000 9:12:52 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 10042

<<From my perspective, many votes were not counted and that makes me mad as hell -- military, fellon, jews, hispanic, you name it. That will be the Jeb Bush legacy. >> Just as many WASP Republican votes were not counted. No where in the country is every vote counted - drop the MANTRA as well as the "neutral" act. The best that can be assured is that via mechanical means is they are not counted in a bipartisan manner. The "non-counting" happened BEFORE Jeb Bush, & in many places he has never even lived! One thing, under Flordia law, fellons are NOT allowed a vote - I guess you support a selective breaking of election law...

To: Oak Tree who wrote (7996)	11/29/2000 9:45:58 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

fellon Excuse me... Is this an ethnic group, of which I am previously unaware? Or is it a misspelling of the word "felon", meaning a convicted criminal who's civic priviledges have been revoked (can't vote, can't buy firearms.. etc). Felons can only have their rights restored by petitioning the particular amnesty agency in their particular state. And they can't vote.. (unless they're in the DC prison system.. :0) And permitting convicted felons to vote, as it seems you are implying, hardly sounds "moderate" to me. In fact, it sounds like you believe someone who commits a crime against his fellow citizens, violating the norms of society, should have a say in picking the people who govern this county. Imagine that... given enough voting felons, we could actually become a Kleptocracy, with laws that encourage criminal behavior.... :0)

To: Oak Tree who wrote (7996)	11/30/2000 7:05:24 AM
From: long-gone	Respond to of 10042

NY Post TORCHING DEMOCRACY IN ORDER TO ‘SAVE' IT Wednesday,November 29,2000 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOR the first time in the republic's history, the party in power in the White House, having lost a presidential election, seeks to overturn that election in the courts. The government of the party in power is refusing to cooperate in the orderly transfer of power to the winner. A majority of the public now says, in surveys, that it wishes this stopped; some 60 percent to 70 percent say Gore should concede. Instead, Gore promises to wage a fight in the courts that can only cause immense harm to democracy, to the presidency and to the country. He must do this, he says, for the good of democracy, the presidency and the country. He must burn the village to save it. In virtual lockstep, the leaders and elders of the party in power stand behind their defeated candidate's unprecedented defiance of democracy's national edict. There is one thing you can say about the Clinton-Gore crowd: With them, there is always some fresh hell and there never is a bottom. No one could have imagined that they could have topped their most spectacular first - first elected president to be impeached - or that they could have created a crisis that would wreak more destruction than that episode. But with these men of fathomless selfishness, there is always more damage to be done. There is always another institution, another principle, another person that must be destroyed - for the greater good of their greater power. Mr. Gore, the Selfless One, appeared before the nation and before no fewer than eight American flags to wag his finger and deliver what ranks with Nixon's Checkers apology as the most revolting speech in political history, and was certainly among the most dishonest and dangerous. (cont) newyorkpost.com