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To: Ausdauer who wrote (16864)11/29/2000 9:23:58 AM
From: drew_m  Respond to of 60323
 
Aus,

The Compaq iPaq is the real deal. I never thought Id leave the PalmOs for CE/PocketPC.

After a week of trial use of a friends iPaq I am hooked.

Too bad my wife has been trying to find for weeks. If anyone knows a where to get one please let me know.

Drew



To: Ausdauer who wrote (16864)11/29/2000 9:28:17 AM
From: Jon Cave  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323
 
B: Atmel Reiterates Positive Business Outlook;
B: Atmel Reiterates Positive Business Outlook; Company to Present at Credit Suisse First Boston Technology Conference

I know this company is not exactly in the same business as SNDK. But, I thought you guys could use any good news we can find.

SAN JOSE, Calif., Nov 29, 2000 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Atmel Corporation
(Nasdaq:ATML) announced today that the Company will present to the investment
community on November 30, 2000, as part of the Credit Suisse First Boston Annual
Technology Conference in Phoenix, Arizona.

Investors are invited to access the presentation at www.atmel.com and
www.csfbtech.com. This webcast of Atmel's presentation will be available live on
Thursday, November 30, 2000, at 9:00 a.m. Pacific Time, and will be archived for
30 days.

Additionally, Donald Colvin, Atmel's Chief Financial Officer, reiterated the
Company's outlook for its fourth quarter as previously stated in Atmel's most
recent quarterly earnings conference call. In particular, revenue is expected to
grow by 7 to 8 percent sequentially, driven by strong demand for Atmel's
products across a wide range of end markets. Stated Colvin, "Business conditions
remain healthy and we are tracking with the guidance given during our last
quarterly earnings conference call."


About Atmel

Founded in 1984, Atmel Corporation is headquartered in San Jose, California,
with principal manufacturing facilities in Colorado Springs, Colorado, Grenoble,
Nantes and Rousset, France and Heilbronn, Germany, Irving, Texas, and North
Tyneside, England. Atmel designs, manufactures and markets on a worldwide basis
advanced logic, mixed-signal, nonvolatile memory, and RF semiconductors. Atmel
is also a leading provider of system-level integration semiconductor solutions
using advanced CMOS, BiCMOS, BiPolar and SiGe process technologies.

Atmel product and financial information can be retrieved from its Fax-on Demand
service. In North America call 800/292-8635. Internationally from a fax phone,
dial 408/441-0732. Requests may be sent via e-mail to literature@atmel.com or by
visiting Atmel's website at atmel.com.

Except for historical information contained herein, the matters set forth in
this press release are forward looking statements that are subject to risks and
uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially, including
the impact of competitive products and pricing, timely design acceptance by our
customers, timely introduction of new technologies, ability to ramp new products
into volume, industry wide shifts in supply and demand for semiconductor
products, industry overcapacity, effective and cost efficient utilization of
manufacturing capacity, financial stability in foreign markets, ability to
integrate and manage acquisitions, and other risks detailed from time to time in
the Atmel's SEC reports and filings.


CONTACT: Atmel Corporation, San Jose
Donald Colvin, 408/436-4360

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To: Ausdauer who wrote (16864)11/29/2000 2:11:53 PM
From: DaveMG  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 60323
 
What the hell are we missing

There only seem to be a few viable scenarios that might explain what's happening with SNDK's stock price.

1)Most charitable to SNDK would be the "unfairly lumped in with the rest of the semi/memory makers" scenario, in which case the stock will certainly recover nicely as earnings continue to ramp, and this is another of those all too frequent great buying opportunities.

2)New products in the wings that will render obsolete SNDKs patents/technology, which as far as I can tell is not the problem at the moment.

3)Or, more difficult to get a grasp on, is that SNDK really is wading into murky waters, that all of the increased capacity is going to ultimately somewhere in the not too distant future result in cascading, cutthroat pricing, a scenario in which a relatively small player like SNDK will get eaten by Samsung, Toshiba etc..

IMO #3 is what Mr. Market must be grappling with. When I try to put my finger on what sort of built in competitive advantage SNDK has vis a vis the "Big Guys" I find it hard to pinpoint anything very specific that will suffice.

Patent royalty alone doesn't seem to be enough to fall back on at this juncture.

Does the JV with Toshiba protect SNDK from Toshiba if Toshiba decides it wants a bigger piece of the market to itself? Or Samsung, can't they just pump up capacity if they want to?

We've read over and over again that FLASH is more specifically differentiated, specialized, than DRAM, and that this differentiation should somehow protect us. But is it so? We all know the end markets served by SNDK are exploding. Anecdodtal evidence seems to indicate digital cameras are selling like wildfire. We haven't even begun to see what happens when Flash slots are added to cellphones. So clearly demand ain't the problem. But bigger markets presumably attract bigger fish, fish who might be running short on food supplies elsewhere. Is the idea that Eli & Co are so nimble that they'll simply be able to outrun the rest?

I don't know about the rest of you but I find it hard to get comfortable with any of the answers I can come up with to these questions,

Dave....a long time lurqer and SNDK shareholder to boot..