To: Rappin1 who wrote (19292 ) 11/29/2000 1:41:34 PM From: David Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 26039 On-topic a little, off-topic a lot . . . The November 27 Canberra Times reports that you can buy an Acer Travelmate 739TLV with a biometric reader (i.e., Veridicom's), for a mere $9657 Australian. That's $5000 US, mate, and how much of a mass market do you think Veridicom is going to find in this deal? On the economy, Greenspan is probably happy to see the air leave the tech bubble, but nervous about tax-cut happy Bush claiming the Presidency. On one hand, he might cut rates, on the other hand he doesn't want to have rates down and the deficit up. My guess is that he sits tight as much as possible through the Inaugural period, at least so his moves don't come across as political in any way. Greenspan's a very subtle politician himself -- too good to be caught at it. Rappin's description that "Dems are trying to perfect an imperfect system" is pretty close to the mark, although I'd say that they are trying to make the system less imperfect (in their own self-interest, of course). At this point, the Democrats are not going to be counting any more votes; only the judges or their agents ("special masters") would count the votes. Keep in mind that the set of ballots that the Democrats want examined are ballots that the machines were unable to read and no one has eyeballed. That's not a situation of "counting and recounting" as far as those 13,000 ballots are concerned. Especially since punch card ballots seem more problematic to execute as votes than other types of ballots. As to the overseas ballots, my understanding is that they haven't been great in number, perhaps a couple of hundred and about half of them were restored by Republican dominated counties in the period right before the final certification, and entered in the final Harris count. As to the Seminole county situation, that's an allegation of relatively minor ballot-tampering under a recent Florida law that in 1998 resulted in the Miami mayoralty race being reversed when the court ordered, as the plaintiffs are seeking in Seminole, all the absentee ballots tossed. In Seminole County, the Republicans were allowed to add information to absentee ballot requests after the voter had signed them and sent them in, despite a rather strict law that indicates only the voter or immediate family can complete the application form. That law was passed by the Republican legislature based on all the horror stories Brad has been sharing with the thread about dead voters, etc. The Democrats have affidavits from two party officials who said the Republican elections head in Seminole denied them the same privilege she gave the Republicans. So, while it's true she was pickier than other counties in requiring all the info, if she played favorites here, that's trouble for Bush. I also saw in the last day that there's a similar allegation against the Republicans in Martin County. (Brad, this kind of criminal matter can't be consolidated with civil cases elsewhere. They aren't at all alike in the issues or the standards for the decision.) I think it's kind of embarrassing for the GOP that the only significant fraud charge in the whole election is against them.