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To: Enam Luf who wrote (94751)	11/29/2000 7:18:37 PM
From: haqihana	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Enam Luf, Just to make sure you know where I am coming from, I am a Christian, and I believe in the Being, commonly called God, and Jesus Christ as my Lord, and Savior. My beliefs are based on the New Testament which was written by men that knew Jesus, ate with him, traveled with him, and saw, first hand, the miracles that He performed. As for the book of Genesis, I do have some problems with the way creation is explained. I have my own thoughts on this that, in no way, conflict with the concept of a supreme being that I call God. There just is not time enough to discuss this on the web that one can do in person. There are far too many things to consider in the formation of a planet, and all the life that abounds upon it. IMO, the New Testament is the truth, and an accurate account of the events of the time. The Old Testament was written by men from oral histories that had been handed down for, at least, centuries, and many inaccuracies could have been written. As far as the religions of today, namely those of the "denominational" doctrines, are concerned, they have ignored, or manipulated the message of the New Testament and twisted the words of the Bible to fit their own human agendas, and that disgusts me. ~H~

To: Enam Luf who wrote (94751)	11/29/2000 8:43:28 PM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769667

There are a number of good reasons to question the literal inerrancy of the Bible, but "arrogance" is not one of them. The Bible portrays God as having revealed Himself, which places the matter on the correct footing, after all. An eternal Being capable of creating the universe is, indeed, beyond our strict comprehension. Aquinas is very clear that we use human terms only by analogy, and that God is always more than our language can describe. We may make reasonable inferences, but they will always be inadequate. Only if God somehow reaches out to us can we go beyond these limitations. I am sure you know the Catholic view: that the redeemed in Heaven enjoy the Beatific Vision, and get to see God in His essence. According to the Greek Fathers, we must change so profoundly to be capable of such a Vision that we become God- like, and sanctity is finally a sort of apotheosis. As Paul says:" Now we see as through a glass, darkly, but then we shall see face to face...."