To: Mighty_Mezz who wrote (6144 ) 12/3/2000 10:52:55 PM From: TideGlider Respond to of 7056 TIGI is something to see! More than one DR in it.. :) another line from the TIGI SEC filingsecinfo.com exerpts Visitors Services, Inc. ("VSI"), a formerly wholly owned subsidiary of TSIG filed a voluntary petition for relief under Chapter 7 of the United States Bankruptcy Code for the Middle District of Florida, Tampa Division on March 5, 1999. Creditors of VSI, including the Internal Revenue Service, may assert a claim against TSIG. A contingency exists with respect to these matters, including final determination of the Company's ultimate amount of liability, if any. In addition, a contingency exists with respect to the determination if TSIG is required to reimburse an officer/director of TSIG/VSI for Internal Revenue Service penalties assessed due to non-payment of the trust fund portion of payroll taxes not remitted. A liability of $605,588 was accrued by TSIG related to this matter as of September 30, 2000. TSIG has also accrued $571,992 in federal payroll taxes due and unpaid for 1999 and the fourth quarter of 1998. ************************************************ The Company also has an 8% convertible debenture with an outstanding balance of $2,668,138 as of September 30, 2000 that is due no later than December 31, 2000. The Company currently does not have capital sufficient to repay this obligation. These conditions raise substantial doubt about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern. The consolidated financial statements do not include any adjustments to reflect the possible future effects on the recoverability and classification of assets or the amounts and classification of liabilities that may result from the possible inability of the Company to continue as a going concern. That story is so typical of these BB scams. Currently TIGI, formerly TSIG is incredible. The CEO Robert P Gordon has a long history of BKing companies and at least one cease and desist order. Latest he says he is stepping down ;) as they merged with Affinity Group. That outfit's VP Vance L Vogel has an incredible number of complaints against him. Place the name in a search engine. Wow....Another man in TIGI now (due to another merger) is Jeffrey C Bruss. Some describe as a poster child for the SEC. Here is something I collected for them. Needless to say, I was told by to "longs" that it meant nothing. Even when their own SEC filings state there is doubt they can continue. Please take a look at just the URLs for a few minutes. Here are two search strings for Vogel and Bruss: google.com . google.com . The search strings and the below have been posted to TIGI on RB and SI. The Affinity Group as posted by Topfuel being at the same address is not uncommon as they merged. What was more interesting is another of Mr. Vance L Gobel's Corps also has the same address and apparently in the web of mergers. You have a lot to read here. I am trying to make it easy. SEC info from Reliant discusses their meeting with Messers Vance Vogel and Scott Roix and describes them as the principals of Affinity. Various other net finds describe Mr. Vogel as the Vice President of Affinity Group. Now see the rest of the story.. :) sunbiz.org . sunbiz.org . ftc.gov doj.state.wi.us state.wv.us airtravel.about.com . phoenix.bbb.org ky-in.bbb.org jus.state.nc.us echeck.com wa.gov