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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (8127)	12/1/2000 8:58:24 AM
From: AmericanVoter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

"I suggest that the best way to tell if the ballots have votes on them is to look at them and use some common sense. This has never been done" Nadine, that would have been fine had Mr. Gore stopped from wanting the canvassing boards to play GOD and try to discern the intent of the voter... a manual recount is supposed to identify what should have been counted by the machine but wasn't for some unknown reason.. and not to discern the voters' intent... statistics have shown that many many people have not voted the party line... yet, time and again, Mr. Gore and his team want to force them to do just that if they did not have a clear vote to the contrary... again, statistics have shown that many many voters have elected NOT to vote for a presidential candidate... again, Mr. Gore wants to force them to... and in Democratic dominated counties mind you.... now, what on earth gives Mr. Gore, or ANYONE for that matter the right to do that...? the standards for "intent of a vote" have changed at least twice... WHY ? and if Democrats were disgusted with Mr. Gore and decided not to vote for him or Mr. Bush... any Democrat in the canvassing board can claim discernable intent of a vote... especially when punch hole ballots can be indented by mere handling... I can not fault Mr. Bush for not wanting the manual recount under any circumstances... Mr. Gore and his team are simply NOT TRUSTWORTHY... and they have shown it to the whole nation and the world....plain and simple. best regards amein

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (8127)	12/1/2000 9:14:17 AM
From: Hawkmoon	Respond to of 10042

Huh? ballots are supposed to be anonymous. Now you hold it against them? I'm sorry that you misunderstood me Nadine... All I was saying is that absentee ballots are not anonymous, thus they should be considered EVEN MORE CREDIBLE than anonymous electronic ballots, if only for the reason that one can match an actual ballot with an actual voter. With anonymous ballots, you JUST DON'T KNOW who cast that actual ballot. And because of the Federal "motor voter" law, many people voted who were not entitled to vote, either because of a criminal past, or because they are not US citizens. You don't have to be a citizen to get a driver's license. But when you get your license, you are automatically registered to vote, regardless of whether you are a citizen or not. Something tells me that the Motor Voter law, while maybe convenient, invites tremendous fraud to the system. Remember, Gore offered a statewide recount and Bush turned it down. That was not until after Bush had him over a barrel with regard to the 14th Amendment (equal protection under the law). And Gore DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE to get absentee ballots discarded DESPITE the fact that he bellows "every vote is a human voice!!" That is hardly a "statewide recount"... Gore want invalid ballots "devined" (mined?) for intent and counted. But let's not give any slack to those Republican servicemembers for a lousy post mark... Regards, Ron