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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (3743)	12/1/2000 8:36:26 PM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

But I wonder how all those old Jews in the desert knew so much about what Christ wanted taught before He arrived, Hi Dan Welcome to the thread. Not sure if your question was rhetorical or if you are interested in an answer, but I'll give it a shot. Although the incarnation took place at a particular time and place in history, Jesus, being God, has always existed. Many Christian scholars believe that all of the old testament appearences of God or Yahweh, were in fact Christophanies or appearances of the pre-incarnate Christ. Indications for this can be found in John 8: which says; Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?" Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me. Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and keep his word. Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad." "You are not yet fifty years old," the Jews said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds. Also in John 12:41 it says; "these things Isaiah said when he saw His glory and spoke of Him." The Him referred to in Isa 6: is clearly Yahweh, but John says that he saw Jesus. The Jew's were always looking for the Messiah the picture was not as clear to them looking forward as it is to us looking back, but it was there none the less. Paul points to Abraham's faith as being the model for all who would believe when he quotes "Abraham believed God and it was counted to him as righteousness." That's the short answer. I am a protestant, so in my view, lapsing from Catholicism is not the end of the world. what are you lapsing to? Have a good day Greg