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To: JamesB who wrote (98124)12/2/2000 12:47:44 AM
From: amadeus  Respond to of 769670
 
true.

ethically not a strong position.
hard to blame him when he did win the popular vote.
and likely won the electoral vote by several thousand,
save a confusing ballot in palm beach.
but legal. and bush is trying to change the law,
to make it illegal to do hand recounts.



To: JamesB who wrote (98124)12/2/2000 12:59:08 AM
From: jhild  Respond to of 769670
 
. . . there are undervotes by the hundreds of thousands all across the country in every election. They balance out in the long run, it is simply a part of the process.

That's not really relevant. The overwhelming, and I am sure the overwhelming majority of these undervotes are not determinative of elections. Those that are get examined to determine the intent of the voter. It is wholly appropriate in this circumstance for these Florida undervote ballots to be examined to determine if votes can indeed be ascertained.

How self serving are you prepared to get in wanting to see this circumstance "balance out" with other undervotes that have not affected the results of any elections?



To: JamesB who wrote (98124)12/2/2000 1:10:44 AM
From: PartyTime  Respond to of 769670
 
No, James, they don't balance out. Budget-strapped, inner city, poorer counties use punch-card systems. And most of the folk who vote in these areas all through the nation tend to vote Democrat. Gore got screwed big-time nationally by the punch-card voting system; not just in Florida.

You'll see when a more comprehensive study shows the difference between optical scanner voting sytems and punch-card voting systems. Heck, this difference will be shown in Florida at tomorrow's hearing before Judge Sauls.