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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8217)	12/2/2000 2:49:10 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

Because aren't they, in essence, trying to claim that Katherine Harris didn't have the right to exercise her authority in certifying the elections according to state law, simply because she is Republican. Not quite -- they were saying that the statute that says "certify after 7 days" is in conflict with the statute that says "you can do a manual recount if the canvassing board approves", because there is not enough time provided to do the recounts. Now, you could argue that the law gives full discretion to the Secretary of State to include recounts if she wishes, and if she doesn't wish to there's no recourse. In fact this is the Republican argument. The argument never turned on Katherine Harris being a Republican, although her behavior has not exactly looked impartial to most observers.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8217)	12/2/2000 9:13:51 PM
From: long-gone	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 10042

re: fellons voting for Gore Might this help? > > Important statistics: > > > > Population of counties won by Gore: 127 million > > Population of counties won by Bush: 143 million > > > > Square miles of country won by Gore: 580,000 > > Square miles of country won by Bush: 2,427,000 > > > > States won by Gore: 19 > > States won by Bush: 29 > > > > Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2 > > Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush: 2.1 > > > > Professor Joseph Olson Hamline University School of Law St. Paul, Minnesota 55104-1235

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (8217)	12/4/2000 3:27:26 PM
From: Math Junkie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

Sorry for jumping in here late - I was away this weekend. Re: "Because aren't they, in essence, trying to claim that Katherine Harris didn't have the right to exercise her authority in certifying the elections according to state law, simply because she is Republican." Since I have argued on this thread that she should have recused herself, I would just like to clarify my opinion: the fact that she is a Republican should play no role whatsoever in whether she should have done so. It is certainly possible for party members to act impartially. For example, consider that the three Democrats on the Palm Beach County Canvassing Board adopted a much more conservative standard for hand counting than what the Gore campaign wanted, and now they're getting sued over it. Another example is the Republican canvassing board member who was cited earlier in this thread, who followed what she believed the law to be in rejecting absentee ballots that would have favored Bush. And then there's the Florida Supreme Court which, although populated almost entirely by Democrats, has turned down at least half of the petitions that the Gore campaign has brought before it. My problem is NOT with a party member exercising authority over elections in general - it's with a campaign co-chair for one of the candidates making decisions which affect her candidate. That is a much deeper level of involvement, and a much higher degree of interest, than merely being a party member. It wouldn't matter whether she was a Democrat or a Republican. It's an obvious conflict of interest. And the fact that she decided every controversy in favor of her own candidate looks suspicious, at best. See the following for a list: Message 14920074