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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Steve K who wrote (4365)12/2/2000 11:41:44 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 6710
 
Sauls may not even give Gore the Palm Beach votes. He admired Burton for being conscientious, but he was very, very interested in Burton's explanation that he did not vote to continue the manual recount but the wimmin-folk outvoted him. He took notes about that in an almost ostentatious manner, definitely with a flourish.

As for my legal-eagle point of view on the statistician's blunder, my problem is that I didn't really understand anything the statistician was saying, so when he blundered it made it easy for me to dismiss everything he said. The lawyer who was doing the direct on the statistician did not do a good job of getting the statistician to explain in layman's terms, and the statistician was not well prepared, and not terribly impressive. It's not easy to get an expert witness to explain things to a layman - it takes real skill on the part of the lawyer and an expert witness who is well- coached OR experienced OR inspired.

He seemed like a nice guy but out of his depth.



To: Steve K who wrote (4365)12/3/2000 12:56:43 AM
From: TraderGreg  Respond to of 6710
 
I did mean this to be the null hypothesis:

Ho: The undervote with optical scanners is identical to the undervote with punch card ballots

You set up the null as the hypothesis that you believe you will be able to reject. When you reject, you can determine precisely your probability of making an error of this type, called Type I(probability of Rejecting the null when the null is true).

When you are unable to reject, which is not quite the same as accepting but we call it accepting, the Type II error (probability of "accepting" the null when the null is false) is not readily determinable since that error depends on what the true state of the world is.

I think Sauls has pretty much discounted this statistician's testimony...it is much easier to see black and white than gray.

TG