To: Dutch who wrote (21645 ) 12/3/2000 11:06:38 AM From: Jim Willie CB Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 65232 joy to watch statistician Laurentius Marais testify he blew apart the shoddy analysis by the Yale professor Stanford wins, Yale loses for those who are curious, the best graduate school program in Probability & Statistics is STANFORD half of my Carnegie Mellon Univ professors in ProbStat program were from Stanford my favorite professor JohnL was from Stanford other excellent programs: Princeton, Minnesota, NoCarolina, Berkeley, Yale, Michigan, Chicago, Harvard, Florida State, Colorado State Boies tried hard to undermine Marais, couldnt do it, failed that was a battle of titans worth price of admission Marais essentially called Demo statistician conclusions flawed, flimsy, and fallatious Boies tried to impugn Marais without success since Marais hadnt done a thorough and competent analysis himself, Boies was trying but couldnt prove that Marais was therefore unable to refute the Yalie's testimony Bush has an advantage Repub lawyers only need to cast doubt on Demo assertions which would establish the NEED for a recount Demo lawyers (by contrast) need to create and defend a strong argument for the need for recount again, this is the critical burden of proof Judge Sauls stopped Boies in his tracks elsewhere Boies was cut off at knees he tried to smear Marais, pointing to a separate case on lead paint Sauls cut him off a few times, until Boies gave up Boies clearly was trying to paint Marais as a hired gun really interesting to watch a professional statistical consultant part of his practice is expert witnessing Marais was very solid in all his comments, very competent Marais covered well the concepts of control, evidence of inferential conclusion, comparative effects, voting methods research, ballot design effects they touched on a few things we dealt with at Digital when I was doing marketing research if you want to kill a candidate, put that name on bottom on list or way off to the side the Gore Team is now suffering from galloping denial they cannot even see that their own expert witnesses are getting crucified they cling to the implied belief that the people see more clearly and competently than experts what a joke, an exercise in legal masturbation now a new mantra, a further sign of Gore desperation Carver, Gephardt, and others are saying: "wouldnt it be a shame for independent organizations to prove what we already know, that Gore won the popular vote in Florida" wow, these guys have no class, integrity, or sense of reality / Jim