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To: techtonicbull who wrote (120318)12/3/2000 2:18:17 PM
From: James F. Hopkins  Respond to of 186894
 
Tech; Let me try to make this clear
We need to take reports like Hogans and also
look back at his track record before we just buy into
some bull shit.
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I didn't find a lot of track record to check except
he works for Jefferies and their track record sucks.
The last fiasco was an accumulate on HD about 2 weeks
before she dropped 42%.
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Market News commentators are more sick than most of the Anal-Cyst. In fact the track record of most News
Commentators if they traded stocks the way they predict
them they would all be in the poor house.
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IF you are going to pay any mind to the "noise" by
Commentators or Anal-cyst you need to do at least
a little serious home work

Take the 30 dow stocks and get the UPgrade / DownGrade
history for 2 yrs & make a chart,
Before you do that I'll tell you
part of what you will find because I have done it.
IT's to much to post it all BUT in a nutshell
you will find that 95% of the Analcyst will make calls
on individual stocks that if you follow will drive
you to the poor house.
Forget the BUY or Accumulate or other such cryptic
and coded way they rate stocks..just use the upgrade/
downgrade record.
Now understand this , while most of them are pitifully
wrong on predicting most individual stocks They do
have an effect and that effect is best found if you
add up all the upgrades and or downgrades as a
composite.
A crescendo of Up Grades will happen just before tops,
the reverse is true just before bottoms.
Talk about shocking JUST DO IT.
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Now out of all the Anal-cyst that cover the DOW stocks
I only found TWO that I would give any credit to
being helpful in the positive sense.
I will not post their Names.. I already know
that if I do some smart ass will hunt up some of their
misses and try to one up me without doing a 10th of the
work I did.
If you want to look at a more recent and most despicable
bunch of changed ratings look at HON then chart her.
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Keep in mind most Anal-cyst have a hard job, they can't
use the word SELL, without shooting themselves
in the foot, as no one wants to use to a company to go
public that uses that word. They are in a catch 22
position about how to tell people they think
something is going down. They have to worry about the
clients they sold that stock to on their last up grade
and try not to piss them off as they don't want to
lose clients. It's just a big a mess.
I will point out one I think is really super sick
and that's Goldman Sacks..take a good look at their
track record..and don't miss going back to 98 and
seeing that in April of 98 they did an upgrade on
IP 6 times in one mouth
and never downgraded
her till OCT of 98 after she fell some 30%.
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More than paying attention to what some pundit or
Analcyst says ( as you will see what your looking to
see just like most people do and will overlook the
things that go against your mindset , we all do that)
So find a way to circumvent it..add up all the Upgrades
and Downgrades as a composite and get a mean level,
then watch for a divergence of what they are calling
for and what the market really does.
Some of them I have no doubt lie worse than a whore with aids.
I have seen three major stocks this week that they looked like they tried to bash and pound on down BUT they went up!
That's not a sure sign but it's the start of one.
Jim



To: techtonicbull who wrote (120318)12/3/2000 5:23:49 PM
From: James F. Hopkins  Respond to of 186894
 
More on Hogan, Jefferies also put a buy on
Circuit City and Best Buy and both fell out of
bed shortly there after.
It's peculiar that he now says they were selling
stocks at a time they had issued BUY ratings..
10/03/00
biz.yahoo.com
Will we later hear him saying they were buying
( at the same time he was predicting doom and disaster )