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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TraderGreg who wrote (4462)12/3/2000 9:51:59 PM
From: Carolyn  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 6710
 
My wish is for the people of this country to get beyond the color of a person's skin. We should all do our part. We can begin now by discussing Thomas' ability on the Supreme Court and the opinions he writes.



To: TraderGreg who wrote (4462)12/3/2000 9:58:37 PM
From: TraderGreg  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Another example illustrating a tale of Two Americas:

Square miles of country won by Gore: 580,000
Square miles of country won by Bush: 2,427,000
(If this was illustrated pictorially by PRECINCT on a national map with Bush in Blue and Gore in Red, it would look like a winter time aerial infra red photograph of a housing development...with the urban pockets(the roofs of homes) going for Gore and the rest of the country(land space between homes) going for Bush.

States won by Gore: 21 (incl Wash,DC)
States won by Bush: 29.9999999999999999999999999

Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Gore: 13.2*
Average Murder per 100,000 residents in counties won by Bush: 2.1*

Clearly reflecting the urban/non-urban vote distribution.

MD is a state of 23 counties and one independent city. The democratic governor of MD won re-election with 55% of the vote, not a shabby percentage. He LOST 19 of those counties.

TG



To: TraderGreg who wrote (4462)12/3/2000 10:12:10 PM
From: The Philosopher  Respond to of 6710
 
in fact, I do believe that Thomas actually no longer
thinks he is black.


Well, if he does, that's the best news I've heard in a while. Now if only Jackson, Sharpton, et al. would no longer think of themselves as black but as people, our society could wrap up its race problem almost overnight. I think the number of people who actually discriminate racially is quite low, and in terms of stature and ability to influence society, virtually meaningless. But the black leadership is so committed to its victimization role, and the Democratic party is so committed to helping them stay victimized because it protects that voting block (90% of blacks in Florida reportedly voted Democratic) that our race problem remains intractable.



To: TraderGreg who wrote (4462)12/4/2000 5:21:00 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Re: Justice Thomas
[Since we're into statistics these days and interpretation there of]

Justice Thomas has written 56 opinions for the Court.
Here's the distribution by affirmation.

Dist/Total Number
9-0/ 33
8-1/ 6
7-2/ 9
6-3/ 2
6-2/ 1 [Indicates one Justice did not have an opinion]
5-3/ 1 [Indicates one Justice did not have an opinion]
5-4/ 4

I think there are two possible conclusions that could be made here.

A. The Court is far more in agreement than is widely perceived.
B. Let's just say it's A.

Regards,
jttmab



To: TraderGreg who wrote (4462)12/4/2000 9:09:19 AM
From: Windsock  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Re: "I do believe that Thomas actually no longer thinks he is black."

Thomas is an intellectual lightweight and just follows Scalia where ever he goes, like a happy little puppy.



To: TraderGreg who wrote (4462)12/4/2000 10:55:48 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6710
 
>>I do believe that Thomas actually no longer thinks he is black.<<

I wonder what this means? What does "being black" mean in America anymore? I don't know where Thomas lives, I am guessing it's in our metro area. I know that Scalia, like Cheney, lives in McLean. I think Ginzburg lives in the Watergate. A wealthy, educated black like Justice Thomas, living in a suburb like McLean, populated by wealthy, educated sophisticated people and working at a high-powered intellectual job like Justice of the Supreme Court isn't going to face a whole lot of racial prejudice.

Did you read yesterday's Washington Post? There was an article about murders in the District of Columbia, and a map with black dots for unsolved murders and grey dots for solved murders. The dots were very concentrated in areas which I would call inner city type ghettos, and very sparse in majority white areas. I think black people who grow up in good neighborhoods, who don't use drugs, who don't commit crimes, who attend decent schools, who get high school diplomas, who go to college, who get decent jobs, who don't live in ghettoes have a completely different experience in America than the others.

We can debate for the rest of our lives about which is cause and which is effect, but there's no denying it.

We used to live in Chantilly but when I found out that there were gangs in Chantilly High School and in Centerville High School we decided to move to a school district with fewer gangs. McLean was out of the question, so I focussed on the Woodson and Robinson districts, and we moved into the area before my older son started high school. I think it's up to parents to get their children away from bad influences as much as they can.