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To: tennessee_ted who wrote (118059)	12/4/2000 1:29:57 PM
From: Dave Gore	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 120523

Tenessee, not to minimize your thoughts but Americans have too short an attention span. I think even the media will realize that most Americans are very tired of election debates. Somebody has to win and when Gore concedes (assuming the court rulings and time go against him) it should be put to rest. Much more important is interest rates, earnings, and the ecomony. What we will hear about is the need to upgrade the quality of the ballots and the machines. By the way, what company makes the optical scanning machines that Oregon and other states are using? Could be a stock play early next year.

To: tennessee_ted who wrote (118059)	12/4/2000 1:41:45 PM
From: Lane Hall-Witt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 120523

Excellent post, tt. So many aspects of this episode are so profoundly disturbing that it's hard even to know where to begin. Whichever candidate ultimately wins, I hope he and the Congress have enough courage to conduct a full and open investigation of the election in Florida -- not with the cynical intent of undermining the outcome or conducting a witchhunt, but with the aim of determining exactly what went wrong and what went right down there. It's appalling that citizens intending to cast legal votes were denied their fundamental right to vote. It's equally appalling that technological flaws and legal technicalities are conspiring to deny many more legal voters their fundamental right to have their votes count. I wish we could all agree, at the end of this fiasco, that every citizen has an inalienable right to vote and to be heard through that vote -- and that we should do all in our power to give people the means to vote (open access to the polls, reliable voting machinery) and to have their votes count (even if that means investing the time and money to count votes by hand). So many people, during this episode, have complained about how costly it would be to upgrade our voting mechanism, or how long it would take to count the ballots by hand. But is this too high a price to pay to defend our freedom to vote and to have our vote count? We have fought wars all around the world to protect democracy: is it too much to ask that we count ballots in order to protect democracy? The principles here just seem obvious to me. It's too bad the politicians on both sides have diverted our attention so far from these basic principles.

To: tennessee_ted who wrote (118059)	12/4/2000 1:51:59 PM
From: TraderXx	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 120523

"Assuming Bush gets to claim the presidency, it is becoming all too clear (and some commentators are starting to pick up on this) that the vote count will eventually clearly have elected Gore had the voting been properly supervised for invalid votes, and outright voter discrimination against minorities not taken place. The misdirected votes of blacks who were mislead on their ballots and then denied the right to revote when they asked to are alone enough to have swung the election." Scuse me??? Misdirected?? Misled??? Denied???? I can certainly see what you're talking about. When a voter approaches the ballot booth and the machine sees the person after evaluating the person to be an african american, the machine THEN makes the decision that it won't accept his vote ( or maybe just makes it look like a dimpled chad)therefore eliminating any possibilty that the african american community can have a fair and non-discriminating chance to vote. " the disruption caused by a Bush presidency with an eventual clear majority in Florida for Gore will be disastrous. There may be calls for new elections or even impeachment, if it turns out that the Republicans had anything at all to do with discouraging voter participation, especially in minority communities" The Republicans discouraged voter participation in the minority communities????????? Oh yeah, I know what you mean.It was a huge conspiracy from the republican party to discourage and prevent the african american community to vote. What they did was they physically went down to every voting district, stood there, and when any african american passed by they held them against their will, refused to let them vote and even went so far as to somehow get into the voting booth and change their vote for them (for the ones who got by). I can certainly believe that one. The bottom line is that ITS OVER. The country wants to move on and stop listening to these whining Democrats recount and recount until they get a result they want. The election was close, but PLEASE stop talking about DISCRIMINATION against minorities. The reality is that before this election I was understanding and respecting both candidates to the point where I wasn't sure who I was going to vote for. But now that the election is finished. MOVE ON!