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Politics : Why is Gore Trying to Steal the Presidency? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: MasonS who wrote (3345)12/5/2000 6:27:57 PM
From: Carolyn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3887
 
Yes, I saw that.

CB is discussing her on the EC thread. I assume she will go for Gore and it will be appealed. I also assume the 7 Democrats on the FSC will uphold her (see how good I am getting with these legal terms?). These obvious political decisions will annoy the legislature, which will step in.
Throughout all, Gore will smirk; I think he loves himself more that the country. He is not a good Dickensian character.



To: MasonS who wrote (3345)12/5/2000 10:28:03 PM
From: oaktownaj  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3887
 
Already posted but worth reviewing again. It is about absentee ballot applications, not ballots.

Seminole ballot case may hinge on 1996 ruling
From the Orlando Sentinel

Four years ago, employees in the Volusia County elections office altered 6,000 absentee ballots, re-marking them with a felt-tipped pen because a machine couldn`t read the marks made by voters.

The loser in the race for sheriff, Gus Beckstrom Jr., sued. The case went to the Florida Supreme Court. The justices harshly criticized Volusia Supervisor of Elections Deanie Lowe for what happened, but they didn`t throw out the votes in that race. Incumbent Sheriff Bob Vogel held on to his win.

Four years later, lawyers and legal experts predict the ruling in the Volusia case signals what is likely to happen in the lawsuit over Seminole County`s 15,000 absentee ballots. Longwood Democrat Harry Jacobs is asking that they all be thrown out. If he prevails, it could tip the election to Vice President Al Gore.

Gerald Richman, Jacobs` attorney, said Monday that he had not analyzed the Beckstrom case. But legal experts have been saying for weeks that Jacobs is unlikely to win.

"Will this bird fly? In my view, no way," said Don Weidner, a Jacksonville attorney who represented Beckstrom. In the Volusia case, the court ruled that elections officials don`t have to be perfect. All they have to do is substantially comply with the law, said Donald Lively, dean of Florida Coastal School of Law in Jacksonville.

That will be one of the key issues before state Circuit Judge Nikki Clark, who is scheduled to preside over the Seminole case Wednesday in Tallahassee. A pre-trial hearing is scheduled today. Attorneys for Seminole Supervisor of Elections Sandy Goard are expected to ask that the case be dismissed.

Goard allowed GOP employees to work for three weeks out of a back room of her office, writing in voter-identification numbers on postcards from voters requesting absentee ballots. The cards had originated from a Florida GOP mass mailing. Goard had thrown them into a discard box because they lacked the numbers, something required by state law.

Jacobs` lawsuit alleges that by writing in the numbers on 2,130 cards, the GOP committed vote fraud, and by letting them do it, Goard did, too. It is now impossible to identify specifically which ballots were involved, so Clark is left with little option but to rule in favor of Goard or throw out all 15,000 absentee ballots. If she does the latter, that would mean a 4,800-vote swing for Gore.

Ken Wright, an attorney for the Florida GOP, calls the suit a dispute over "a hypertechnicality." Still, the suit continues to attract attention for its potential to upend the election results. Nevertheless, the Gore campaign won`t join in, said Dexter Douglas, one of his attorneys.

The vice president told his staff directly to stay out of the Seminole case, a source close to his legal team said Monday. To jump in would mean Gore -- who has fought for weeks in court to have more votes counted -- would be working to have unquestionably legitimate votes thrown out.

Jacobs and his lawyers insist they are acting independently of Gore and the Democratic Party. But the Democrats clearly are paying close attention. An attorney for the Democratic National Committee said Monday that he gave advice to Jacobs and read a draft of his first complaint before Jacobs delivered it Nov. 12 to the Seminole County canvassing board.

Mark Herron said he did not encourage or discourage Jacobs from filing the complaint or, later, the lawsuit, which he also read before it was filed. "My role is just to advise people on what Florida election law is," he said. He was vague about the specifics of his conversation with Jacobs and didn`t remember who called whom, but he said that most likely he warned Jacobs about the deadline for filing a complaint.

In a deposition Saturday, Jacobs said he also contacted Mitchell Berger, a Fort Lauderdale lawyer, Gore adviser and one of Gore`s biggest fund-raisers in Florida, for advice about what to do. Berger did not return phone calls Monday.

Meanwhile, more than a dozen Seminole absentee voters have joined with the supervisor to fight the suit, seeking to keep the judge from throwing out theirs and all the other absentee ballots. Mathew Staver, their lawyer, said Monday that he would argue that the judge in this case should do what the Florida Supreme Court did in the Beckstrom case.

"If you can doctor a ballot after it`s cast to make it so a machine can read it, then you certainly should be able to add a voter ID to an application for a ballot and not void that person`s vote," Staver said.



To: MasonS who wrote (3345)12/6/2000 12:40:26 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3887
 
Black Leaders Sue to Overturn Election

By SCOTT GOLD, Times Staff Writer

TALLAHASSEE, Fla.--African American leaders from Jacksonville, Fla., filed a lawsuit contesting the presidential election, charging that George W. Bush was declared the certified winner in Florida only after minorities were systematically denied the right to vote.
The lawsuit, filed in Leon County Circuit Court on Tuesday evening, says that while votes were tossed out across the state after the election, a disproportionate number were tossed out in African American communities.
"The people that I represent have died to have the opportunity to vote," said U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown, a Florida Democrat and an African American who is a plaintiff in the case. She was joined by several other African American leaders, as well as the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, the civil rights group founded by the Rev. Jesse Jackson.
"People are very upset," Brown said. "They are stopping me in the grocery stores and in church, asking me what I'm going to do about it. . . . There is not a doubt in my mind that Al Gore won the state of Florida."
Brown said the suit was filed independent of the Gore campaign.
Republicans said they had not seen the lawsuit and could not comment on it.
In Duval County, the northeastern Florida county that includes the city of Jacksonville, Texas Gov. Bush received 58% of the vote. Vice President Gore received 41%.
But the county had an unusually large number of votes that were thrown out because they were "undervotes," and did not contain a presidential vote that a machine could read, or so-called overvotes, invalid because they contained more than one vote for president.
Overwhelmingly, those votes came from the county's four black City Council districts, created to ensure a minority voice when Jacksonville combined with Duval County more than two decades ago. Those districts are believed to represent the largest concentration of blacks in Florida, and Gore received as much as 98% of the vote in some precincts there.
According to the lawsuit, 26,000 ballots were not counted in Duval County. More than 9,000 were cast in largely African American precincts where Gore captured more than 90% of the vote.
What's more, the lawsuit claims that a "motor-voter" program, which allows drivers to register to vote or update a voter registration record when applying for a driver's license, backfired in Duval County. There, the Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles never gave completed voter registration applications to the Duval County supervisor of elections, the lawsuit charges.
The lawsuit also charges that voting equipment problems and a botched sample ballot led to thousands of invalid ballots.
According to the suit, equipment difficulties, such as misaligned punch cards, led to undervotes because voters had difficulty pressing a stylus through the ballot.
And, the suit says, sample ballots passed out in Duval County were different from the ballots used on election day. The sample ballots listed presidential candidates on one page, while the actual ballot had two pages of presidential candidates.
The suit says the actual ballot led thousands of people to choose more than one candidate for president.
The lawsuit aggressively seeks to overturn the election, demanding that:
* Uncounted votes from Duval County be taken to the Leon County Circuit Court for safekeeping;
* Those ballots undergo a manual recount;
* A judge order Secretary of State Katherine Harris and the Florida Elections Canvassing Commission to certify Gore as the winner of Florida's 25 electoral votes.

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