To: richard surckla who wrote (129304 ) 12/6/2000 2:01:28 AM From: Petz Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1570436 richard, your post was the funniest one I read in a long time since its obvious you are clueless about CPU's or AMD's product lineup.1. AMD announces it is "exploring" the Sledgehammer. 2. Price of the Athlon drops. AMD offers price cuts for the Athlon. 3. AMD releases the Thunderbird, using the Athlon only. 4. But the price of the Athlon continues to drop. I have no clue what you are refering to w.r.t. the Sledgehammer. AMD has been working on it for 3 years. All Athlons are now Tbirds and all CPU's drop in price at a given MHz level. But AMD keeps introducing higher and higher speed chips at the $500 price point. This is normal, so you don't have a point.6. Gateway and MicronPc report a backup in inventory. Both these companies are primarily to the US market and they sell more Intel machines than AMD machines. The US PC market has slowed down, so what's your point.7. AMD confirms it will introduce a Sledgehammer someday, but pushes that date back (like Intel with the Brookdale/PC133 P4, originally scheduled for spring, now delayed till late '01). The comparison to P4/Brookdale makes no sense. Memory technology has nothing to do with delays for either one. In the case of P4, Brookdale is delayed because of the secret agreement that Intel has with Rambus which requires that all P4 chipsets support RDRAM until 2002. Intel's original answer to that requirement was pretty clever -- they were going to make Brookdale with integrated graphics and have an RDRAM frame buffer, which no one would ever bother implementing on a motherboard. But when the P4 was completed they discovered that its performance with SDRAM would be so abysmal, that DDR was needed for an SDRAM solution. That pushed the availability date out since Intel had been putting all their high performance eggs in the RDRAM basket until then, NOT because DDR memory isn't available (VIA will be selling DDR chipsets for P3 real soon), but because the chipset isn't designed for DDR yet. As for Sledgehammer delay, who ever thought it would be out in the spring? As a 64 bit CPU, Sledgehammer should be compared to Itanium, which has slipped schedule by years, not months.8. AMD gives away an Athlon with every purchase of an AMD computer. Yea, right. AMD doesn't make computers.Is the Athlon really wanted? Why does the price of a 1 GHz Athlon keep falling unless demand is tanking? Take a walk in a retail store. Petz