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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TraderGreg who wrote (4994)	12/6/2000 11:26:23 AM
From: Ilaine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6710

The second, and last, time the Dade recount was stopped, according to the Canvassing Board, because they couldn't complete it in time if they did it in public. They tried to go into a private room, with some observers but not as many as they had before, and the crowd objected. Many of the people chanting were members of the press who had been excluded. But the Hispanics in the crowd were yelling because the Miami-Dade board only wanted to manually recount the undervotes, not the whole county, and the Hispanics objected because there weren't many undercounts from Hispanic precincts, they were, as you know, disproportionately from black precincts. I don't think you can see that on the videotape. There was a lot more going on than a bunch of people shouting. Since you know a lot about statistics, and I don't, you can tell me whether I am right or wrong when I say that to manually recount mostly black precincts which voted heavily for Gore is more likely to give more votes to Gore than if you manually recount the entire county.

To: TraderGreg who wrote (4994)	12/6/2000 11:51:50 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 6710

Here, from the November 16, 2000, edition of the Miami-Herald, is the explanation of why the Miami-Dade board originally opposed doing the recounts - please note the following: it has nothing to do with Republicans: >>Democrats again seek recount BY DON FINEFROCK dfinefrock@herald.com Attorneys for the Democratic Party asked the Miami-Dade County canvassing board again Wednesday to grant a full manual recount of all presidential ballots in the county, saying new developments may prompt the board to change its mind. Republicans objected to the request, but the canvassing board agreed to meet at 3 p.m. Friday to hear the Democrats' motion for reconsideration, leaving the matter unresolved for now. The canvassing board voted 2-1 on Tuesday not to proceed with a full recount of all 654,000 ballots in Miami-Dade after elections workers spent four hours counting votes by hand from three of the county's 614 precincts. That partial recount of 5,871 ballots resulted in a net gain of six votes for Vice President Al Gore. Two of the three canvassing board members said the result was too small to justify a full recount. But Democratic attorneys said legal developments on Wednesday and a decision by the Broward County canvassing board to recount ballots in that county changed the political and legal landscape. The Broward recount ``creates the substantial prospect, if not the overwhelming likelihood, of significant additional votes for Vice President Al Gore, attorney Kendall Coffey wrote in the motion for reconsideration. Coffey said a recount in Miami-Dade could produce a net gain of 157 votes for Gore. The vice president now trails Texas Gov. George W. Bush by 300 votes in Florida. The motion drew immediate opposition from Republican attorney Bob Martinez. Martinez said the move was improper: ``What you are being asked to do here is reverse yourself. That stretches the fabric of the law, and people are going to say: Is there no end to this? We should conclude this. This is over. County Judge Lawrence D. King disagreed. He was the only member of the canvassing board to vote in favor of a full recount on Tuesday. ``I believe that there would be no harm whatsoever by allowing this panel to consider . . . the concerns that the Democratic Party may have, he said.<< miamiherald.com