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To: dave rose who wrote (4532)	12/6/2000 11:58:54 AM
From: chalu2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13060

Agreed. And, in any event, few people for any reason feel very "threatened" by the US government. And why should they? We have reached the height of civilization. We have created an extraordinary culture and a set of traditions and institutions that make us the freest, strongest, most open, prosperous and tolerant nation ever. Did Jefferson really advocate a revolution every 20 years? I don't know, but I have seen countries caught up in perpetual revolution and rebellion. You wouldn't want to live there. Indeed, most people living in such countries (maybe all?) wish they were living here! As Franklin observed: "There are those who bear hardship with dignity and grace, while others, when presented with pheasant and wine, will protest at length that the wine is not of the highest grade. We wish to constuct our society of the former type."

To: dave rose who wrote (4532)	12/6/2000 12:00:17 PM
From: freeus	Respond to of 13060

It's been repeated often enough but: When they came for the Handicapped I was not handicapped so I kept silent. When they came for the Jews I was not a Jew so I kept silent. When they came for the dissidents I was not a dissident so I kept silent. When they came for me there was noone left to cry out. Or something like that. The people of Waco, and the ones killed at Ruby Ridge, and the ones whose homes are being broken into at gunpoint, many of them dead and disabled too and no govt authority suffers because of it.... I care about those people. I know very well it could be me and/or my loved ones next. Freeus