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To: kjhwang who wrote (121018)	12/7/2000 12:21:32 AM
From: Elmer	Respond to of 186894

Re: "Unlike what others on this thread set forth as fact, the reality is INTC cannot rely on large die products--McKinley/whatever for profits going forward! Profit analysis based on die size/yield/price pt. is strongly biased against same" Easy to say but how about providing some data to back up your claim? EP

To: kjhwang who wrote (121018)	12/7/2000 12:31:34 AM
From: Scumbria	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

TCI, Standard industry practice is to denote die size based on the sqrt of die area, hence sq. mils per side. This not only doesn't make any sense mathematically, but it is incorrect. Die size is reported as either mm^2 or the linear dimensions (mm) along the LxW of the rectangle. Scumbria

To: kjhwang who wrote (121018)	12/7/2000 1:06:09 AM
From: deibutfeif	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Cool, re:...Standard industry practice is to denote die size based on the sqrt of die area, hence sq. mils per side... As Scumbria already pointed out, you are in way over your head. Many people on this thread (myself and Scumbria included) come from a chip design background. A chip is measured in mils (thousanths of an inch) on a side (not sq. mils per side), mm (millimeters) on a side, or mm^2 (an area). The latter is becoming the preferred method as it provides a more intuitive feel for the cost. Processors these days are big chips, not 200 mils on a side. A microcontroller might be 200 mils, but you don't get $90 for those - more like $3. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. ~dbf