To: Steve 667 who wrote (17004 ) 12/7/2000 10:52:16 AM From: Sam Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 60323 Steve, I still call it OT, and will make it the next to the last post on the subject on this thread, since I don't have time right now to make it what I might consider complete. 1. The market retreating has something to do with the election, but much more to do with the Fed's rate increases, the slowing economy, a market that was overvalued to begin with (at least some parts of it), and, typically, a market that is overadjusting--that is, taking not just the overvalued down, but everything that is remotely related to what was overvalued, including Sandisk (to make this post slightly on-topic). Also problems with the Euro and with Asia. The election, IMHO, is not the major issue here, it is just a contributing irritant. 2. I don't know why you claim that the article you linked was in the "interests of balance", it is the standard Republican line. The videotapes of what went on in Miami give the lie to that version of events. 3. Most ballots have been counted twice. Some ballots have not been. The machines used are far from perfect. The inventors and manufacturers of the machines say that they are not perfect, and that in close elections the ballots need to be hand-counted in order to correct mistakes that the machines will inevitably make. Asking to hand count the ballots that the machines could not count is far from unreasonable. Even if the dimpled ballots are not counted, if just the pregnant or hanging chad ballots are counted, that may or may not be enough to put Gore over the top. I don't really care, push come to shove, if it does not put him over the top. But I do think that they ought to be looked at. The people who say that the military ballots without a postmark ought to be counted, or that the people who had illegal ballot applications due to a "technicality" ought to be counted, ought to agree that these machine rejected ballots ought to be at least looked at and counted if the rejection was illegitimate as well. People have a right to have their vote counted if at all possible. This is true in all cases, but it is especially true if the outcome of an election hangs in the balance. 4. If the Republicans would have focussed their case on the standards by which the ballots were counted, rather than the actual counting of the ballots, they would have a stronger case, to my mind. They are merely being obstructionist as it is. The standards are a serious issue. To count or not to count is not. s.