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To: PartyTime who wrote (105419)	12/8/2000 11:43:29 AM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769667

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To: PartyTime who wrote (105419)	12/8/2000 11:43:29 AM
From: jlallen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

> Sung to the tune of "The Beverly Hillbillies" > > Come and listen to my story 'bout a man named Gore > A snippy Democrat, who was really quite a bore > On election day of his Presidential bout > He thought he lost the fight but he got to recount > ballots that is... punch cards... butterflies > > > Well the next thing you know they're countin' 'em > again > He lost a second time so he gave it all some spin > They said Palm Beach is the place you oughta be > So he hired legal experts from Tallahassee > Florida that is... sunshine state... deadlocked > > > Well! the next thing you know they wanna change the > rules > And play around with votes cause they think we're > fools > They riled lotsa folks and they made a lotta fuss > Till Cheney came along and started kickin' butts > Buttocks that is... liberal hineys... left-wing > tuchas > > > Al Gore whined that the system wasn't fair > After countin' ballot holes that weren't even there > Kate Harris said that the recount was a joke > But that didn't stop the liberals from tallyin' > votes > Democrat votes that is... hangin' chad... dimpled > ballots > > > Well the State Supreme Court gave Gore another break > They let him count again cause the party was at > stake > But just when he thought that his dream was born > anew > The overseas votes gave it all to W > George W that is... Texas Governor... > President-elect > > > Now it's time to say good-bye to Al and all his kin > He tried to steal some votes but it didn't help him > win > You're all invited over to his house in Tennessee > To sit around and blubber at his pity-party > Nashville that is... pout a while... have some sour > grapes Ya'll have fun now... Ya Hear?

To: PartyTime who wrote (105419)	12/8/2000 11:43:45 AM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 769667

Thanks for the link. Haven't read the whole thing yet (busy with some stuff), but this stands out: Q: Do you know if Mr. Leach was writing numbers on the cards? A: From what I was told, yes. Q: Was he writing scrambled numbers on the card as far as you know or was he writing correct numbers on the cards? A: Scrambled. Q: The numbers he was writing were scrambled? A: Yes. Q: Did you receive any instructions from Ms. Goard or anybody else with respect to the numbers he was writing on the card? Did you get any instructions about what to do with numbers that he had written down that were scrambled? A: With the numbers, no, not that I remember. Q: Did Ms. Goard tell you how to process these particular kinds – the type that we are talking about, II-C. Did Ms. Goard or anyone else give you any particular instructions about how to process these in the way that was different from other kinds of request forms? A: On these we were told to mainly go by the names, the addresses and other identifying, because of the fact that the registration number wasn’t scrambled, so we couldn’t use the registration number.

To: PartyTime who wrote (105419)	12/8/2000 11:47:55 AM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 769667

Q: Other than the Republican cards, which is what we’ll call II-C, other than the Republican cards, leaving those aside, if you got a form like II-D that didn’t have a voter I.D. number on it, you didn’t just process that; you set it aside, right? A: Correct. Q: And the Republican forms were treated differently, right? A: Right. [ from that same link ]

To: PartyTime who wrote (105419)	12/8/2000 11:51:49 AM
From: Ellen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Deposition of Dennis Joyner, 11/30/2000 [Assistant Supervisor of Elections, Seminole County] [He said that no staff, only Michael Leach, filled in any info on absentee ballot requests forms.] Q: Did you segregate the Republican request forms, the ones that were identified as part of the mass mailing, by the Republican Party separate from other absentee ballot request forms? A: Yes. Q: And at whose instructions did you do that? A: Ms. Goard. Q: Did she tell you why she wanted you to do that? A: No, we were to separate them, and those that did not have the number on them, you know, we were to give them to Michael. . . . [About 20-30% had the number on it in the GOP mailing.] [No change in procedures were made after Bob Poe complained 11/30.] Q: When Mr. Leach filled in information on the cards, and they were then – who then picked them up from Mr. Leach? A: I did. Q: And when you picked them up, did anybody go back to verify that the voter identification numbers that he put on there were accurate numbers? A: We basically used the address. Q: So the answer is no, you did not verify to make sure that the number he then put on there was correct; is that right? A: Yes. Q: So you have, in effect, if he put a number on there, you don’t know whether that was the correct number for that voter, or a bogus or incorrect number, do you? [Young objection] Q: Do you? A: The number was looked at , you know, I mean all the staff was told to look at the number. Q: Do you know whether anybody looked, once it came back the number on there, do you know that anybody looked at it to check – A: No. Q: That it was accurate for that voter. A: No. Q: Was there a policy that if someone asked for a voter identification number from this office that that would not be given out. A: It was not given out. [ from that same link ] Imagine the outcry if the Dems had done this!! si not acting right today

To: PartyTime who wrote (105419)	12/8/2000 11:51:49 AM
From: Ellen	Respond to of 769667

Deposition of Dennis Joyner, 11/30/2000 [Assistant Supervisor of Elections, Seminole County] [He said that no staff, only Michael Leach, filled in any info on absentee ballot requests forms.] Q: Did you segregate the Republican request forms, the ones that were identified as part of the mass mailing, by the Republican Party separate from other absentee ballot request forms? A: Yes. Q: And at whose instructions did you do that? A: Ms. Goard. Q: Did she tell you why she wanted you to do that? A: No, we were to separate them, and those that did not have the number on them, you know, we were to give them to Michael. . . . [About 20-30% had the number on it in the GOP mailing.] [No change in procedures were made after Bob Poe complained 11/30.] Q: When Mr. Leach filled in information on the cards, and they were then – who then picked them up from Mr. Leach? A: I did. Q: And when you picked them up, did anybody go back to verify that the voter identification numbers that he put on there were accurate numbers? A: We basically used the address. Q: So the answer is no, you did not verify to make sure that the number he then put on there was correct; is that right? A: Yes. Q: So you have, in effect, if he put a number on there, you don’t know whether that was the correct number for that voter, or a bogus or incorrect number, do you? [Young objection] Q: Do you? A: The number was looked at , you know, I mean all the staff was told to look at the number. Q: Do you know whether anybody looked, once it came back the number on there, do you know that anybody looked at it to check – A: No. Q: That it was accurate for that voter. A: No. Q: Was there a policy that if someone asked for a voter identification number from this office that that would not be given out. A: It was not given out. [ from that same link ] Imagine the outcry if the Dems had done this!!

To: PartyTime who wrote (105419)	12/8/2000 11:51:49 AM
From: Ellen	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 769667

Deposition of Dennis Joyner, 11/30/2000 [Assistant Supervisor of Elections, Seminole County] [He said that no staff, only Michael Leach, filled in any info on absentee ballot requests forms.] Q: Did you segregate the Republican request forms, the ones that were identified as part of the mass mailing, by the Republican Party separate from other absentee ballot request forms? A: Yes. Q: And at whose instructions did you do that? A: Ms. Goard. Q: Did she tell you why she wanted you to do that? A: No, we were to separate them, and those that did not have the number on them, you know, we were to give them to Michael. . . . [About 20-30% had the number on it in the GOP mailing.] [No change in procedures were made after Bob Poe complained 11/30.] Q: When Mr. Leach filled in information on the cards, and they were then – who then picked them up from Mr. Leach? A: I did. Q: And when you picked them up, did anybody go back to verify that the voter identification numbers that he put on there were accurate numbers? A: We basically used the address. Q: So the answer is no, you did not verify to make sure that the number he then put on there was correct; is that right? A: Yes. Q: So you have, in effect, if he put a number on there, you don’t know whether that was the correct number for that voter, or a bogus or incorrect number, do you? [Young objection] Q: Do you? A: The number was looked at , you know, I mean all the staff was told to look at the number. Q: Do you know whether anybody looked, once it came back the number on there, do you know that anybody looked at it to check – A: No. Q: That it was accurate for that voter. A: No. Q: Was there a policy that if someone asked for a voter identification number from this office that that would not be given out. A: It was not given out. [ from that same link ] Imagine the outcry if the Dems had done this!!