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To: Bux who wrote (89598)12/8/2000 5:54:00 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 152472
 
Since the courts and counters are incapable of determining the correct Florida count, it's obvious that AlGorithm, with the clear majority of the USA popular vote should be declared the winner.

The intent is majority rule.

Bush should stop sniveling, whining and conducting lots of arcane legalisms to try to gain the levers of power in an obsessive megalomania and concede in the spirit of support for democracy which he claims to have. Or does he really believe in dynastic rule rather than democratic? He is conducting a campaign of obstruction of justice by vexatious litigation which makes the Clinton concealment of adultery by possible perjury and obstruction of justice look like a match compared with an atomic bomb.

The majority of votes should carry the election since the electoral college shambles is a shambles.

If you can't decide, I hereby put myself forward as President in absentia.

I bet Americans really appreciate my help!

Mqurice

PS: It's especially appropriate that the USA be ruled by an Algorithm in the Internet age.



To: Bux who wrote (89598)12/8/2000 6:04:37 PM
From: maxgo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
Being a European I did not have a vote in the US election. I am appaled how I have now been taking hostage to this election mess. The only words of wisdom in this situation I can find are the words of the dissenting opinions of the FSC judgement. I urge you to read it. Unfortunately, I cannot copy and paste, but you can find a copy at CNN.

One more tidbit: "I am more concerned that the majority is departing from the essential requirements of the law by providing a remedy which is impossible to achieve and which will ultimately lead to chaos.... The uncertainty of the outcome of this election will be greater under the remedy afforded by the majority than the uncertainty which now exists.
The circumstances of this election call to mind a quote of the football coaching legend Vincent Lombardi ´We did not lose this game we just ran out of time.´" (p. 68 et seq.).



To: Bux who wrote (89598)12/8/2000 7:04:32 PM
From: Keith Feral  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 152472
 
My last post on this subject.*

They overruled the judicial decision made by the District Courts that listened to the actual cases in full length, not these abbreviated 30 minute oral arguments for which the Supreme Court has no respect. Also, they have failed to answer the questions about the US Supreme Court's questions regarding federal statutes.

They overruled the legislature by imposing new deadlines for the election and are now accepting partial recounts. Both these decisions are contrary to the state laws put forth by the state law. The standards for manual recounts only applied to recounts that were turned in by the election deadline imposed by the state law - 7 days following the election. Federal statutes clearly prevent states from changing the standards of election law after the fact. Any remedies beyond the deadlines should result in changes to the state law for future elections.

It all boils down to class. Al Gore and George Bush showed alot of class and restraint during this process. The District Courts had a dignified approach to the law set forth before them. The blatant abuse of discretion of the State Supreme Court shows zero class. They failed to even answwer the questions of the US Supreme Court which limited their powers to those extended by the State Legislature before bombarding Florida with the worst legal decision in the history of this country. They stuck out the bird to every legitimate body of power in the state of Florida and even the US Supreme Court.

Now that Gore's legal options have expired, it's going to be poetic justice to watch Gore followers scream that it's unfair for the State Legislature to exercise it's power and question the legitimacy of Bush's defense. We are now reaching the safe harbor when every can finally take off the gloves and show their fangs. The Bush people have complained about the inequity of the liberal (what an understatement) bias of the State Supreme Court. Now, it's the Democrat's turn to cry about the conservative bias of the Florida legislature. It ain't going to be pretty.

Further, don't you think it's kind of hokey that the Florida Supreme Court is ordering a statewide recount when it was not requested.

* Subject to the same discretion that the Supreme Court of Florida has extended itself.