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To: waverider who wrote (89647)	12/9/2000 2:06:03 AM
From: Zeke	Respond to of 152472

Diamond – Thanks for the jokes and cartoons about the democrats and the election. They are good for a laugh all right. I sure hope this thing gets sorted out soon. A funny thing happened to me today that I though you would be interested in. Cherie mentioned that she wanted to go to a movie and we sat down with the paper and picked the show we wanted to see. When we were checking to see if we had enough money for tickets and that huge tub of popcorn, we found that we were a little short. I didn’t want to go hunting up a cash machine and it was too late for a bank. That’s when I remembered my change jar in the bedroom. The change jar is a 60’s vintage wine carafe that through previous such use is known to hold a little over $100 in pennies, nickels, dimes and quarters. It’s also known to have the odd nut or washer from some repair job or other, an assortment of Canadian coins from our last trip to Alaska and other such junk as may be in my pocket when I empty them every night. Seeing that it was almost full I knew that we were in fat city. All we had to do was head over to the neighborhood grocery store and use their coin counting machine to convert it to usable (money (ten’s, twenty’s and dollars). So off I went with the wine jug under my arm. When I got to the store I noticed that the coin machine seemed to be an older model than the one I was used to. The other one was a sleek digital number that you simply poured the coins in and it counted them for you. When it was finished it spit out a slip that you took to the register for the cash. If it came to a Canadian coin, or one of those washers that seem to find there way into my jug, it sent it to a tray as “un-counted”. You could then hand sort the rubbish and if the coin looked good you could recycle it back to the in chute for a second count. Lots of times a perfectly good coin was not counted but in that case I simply put those coins back in my pocket. This machine had the in-chute OK but I couldn’t seem to find the un-counted tray. But Cherie was in a hurry and wanted to get to the show so I dumped the jug into the input chute and pressed the go button. After a bit of clanging and jangling the machine spit out a slip showing that it had counted $74.53 and that there were 325 coins that were counted but rejected. It kept the 325 coins. I wanted those because they could be anywhere from $3.25 if they were all pennies to $13 dollars if they were all quarters – more if there were any 50 cent pieces in the batch. Of course they could be all washers and nuts but I wanted them counted or at least returned to me. I called the manager. After I had explained the problem I was told that the coins were “all counted” and to be on my way. This didn’t make me happy at all and I expressed my anger loudly enough that I am afraid that I may have caused a bit of a scene. The manager then threatened to call the mall manager if I didn’t vacate the premises immediately with my $74 and offered a guess that the junk I had put into his machine had probably caused it to fail and would result in a massive repair job. I refused to go so he called the mall manager. He ordered me to get out and backed it up with some ‘rent-a cops’ to enforce his rule. Later I found that the store manager and the mall manager were brothers. But I did have to leave – they had the muscle. I finally decided that I was not going to get to count all my coins unless I went to the local police and got them to make the manager open up the machine and let me count my coins. I felt they were still mine even though they were in his machine but he still insisted that “all coins were counted”. Late tonight I got to the police station and told my story to the desk cop in the lobby. He said I would have to come back tomorrow and tell the story to the sergeant to see what would happen next. What do you think I should do Diamond? Push my luck and complain to the cops or just go away and call it a bad experience? I don’t want to be a bad citizen but I do feel that I was wronged. Well as I said I sure hope this election gets sorted out. All the breaking news is cutting into my regular TV shows. See you later. Zeke

To: waverider who wrote (89647)	12/9/2000 10:12:01 AM
From: M. Charles Swope	Respond to of 152472

Rick, Can't have it both ways. You say we can't change the rules after the fact (BTW, I'm not conceding that that's what's been done). Follow the rules (the legislature's rules) in Seminole county and you've got to throw out all the absentee ballots there. The basis for the trial judge's ruling against throwing them out was that the rules were just technicalities that shouldn't stand in the way of the rights of voters. Dubyah's real position here is "we stole it fair and square." Well, at least we agree on QCOM. Charlie