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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: D. Long who wrote (107336)	12/9/2000 10:13:03 AM
From: Thehammer	Respond to of 769667

<<This article seeks to explain why Democrats find it so hard to believe that Harris merely did her job, and was not acting out of partisan malice.>> I agree Derek. Harris is being vilified for following the letter of the law and the dictate of the Florida SC. The most partisan folk in this whole thing will turn out to be the 4 Supreme Court Justices.

To: D. Long who wrote (107336)	12/9/2000 4:47:03 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

That's an interesting and even-handed if somewhat convoluted piece- clearly instructive too, Thanks. I haven't been reading SI yet since this SC stay of the count. My comments in response to the FSC's start of the counting included the recognition that by demanding that ALL the counties be counted, they ruled against Gore/Boise in the sense that Gore/Boise did NOT ask for such a count, and in fact had argued vehemently against doing so. This backs up my notion that Bush may well win in such a count, and at the very least, I'm sure the Gore is truly less than confident- after losing their arguments to prevent any but their contested territory from being counted. I immediately praised the FSC for seeming to recognize, at least in part, what a fair hand-recount should encompass- a step forward in my mind. But then I sadly stated that the count would probably be stopped. The reason for my sadness is not so much that we aren't counting(particularly without standards, etc.), but that this latest call for counting . I'm willing to predict that near-term polls may show that the 25% of Gore voters who have now long wanted him to concede may be squarely back in his camp. I hope I'm wrong, becuase frankly, it'd be nice to think that they will realize that he simply has discredited himself with his blatant seekings of unfair countings all along. The margin of error is such, and the counting standards are such, that no matter woud win a new count, the other side would just have more fodder to back their prejudice. Even if Bush won(and I see indications he was picking up votes in Dade county, indeed), the Gore camp would find much to critize in the methods used, drawing on similar doubts which the Bush camp has long held and would continue to hold were Gore to win. It's time to quit flipping the coin. The election is certified after several tosses went one way, and with half the voters bound to be happy in either case, it's just fair to stop this counting, when we know the margin of error is what it is, IMO. For either man to win another flip now, would simply heighten the anger in this country. Should Bush win again, it might be more like rubbing salt into a wound than anything else- and that is exactly what this process has been like so far, as it is. Should Gore win, he will have won 1 of three or four tosses. Put that together with the glitches in the system and the knowledge that Gore sought unfair advantage all along, and this could only further anger Republicans who are quite angry enough already with the notion that a man who would demand such skewed countings would become our President, thank-you. As much as I'd like a more accurate count, it seems a futile exercise that can only result in half the voters losing- and with far greater anger held than should have been neccessary. I blame the machines, but even more I blame Gore for trying to take advantage of them territorially, all along- a thoroughly unamerican exercise unintended by the legislature or the Constitution. We cout FAIRLY. Period. His actions to ensure less than fair counts for himself, ensured all this anger, IMO. It's time to quit flipping the coin even though Freedom Works Better than this, Dan B