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To: opalapril who wrote (697)12/9/2000 5:11:56 PM
From: opalaprilRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 6089
 
Scalia's concurring opinion leaves no doubt that this Republican-appointed court majority is about to plant a Bush on the White House grounds, the law be damned.

Scalia writes that full hand counts "in my view threaten irreparable harm to petitioner, and to the country, by casting a cloud upon what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election." Since when does the Supreme Court concern itself with 'clouds' and 'claims' of 'legitmacy' by politicians? Suddenly, it is as if Article III of the Constitution were amended to say the Supreme Court "shall also be the p.r. firm for the candidate it likes."

If the Rehnquist-Scalia axis succeeds in preventing a full hand count of all Florida ballots, it will do more to rob Bush of any 'claim' of 'legitmacy' than everything that has gone before. This would mark the end of democracy in America.



To: opalapril who wrote (697)12/9/2000 5:18:50 PM
From: hoboRespond to of 6089
 
From Judge Stevensons --dissenting--

The majority has acted unwisely.

Time does not permit a full discussion of the merits. It
is clear, however, that a stay should not be granted unless
an applicant makes a substantial showing of a likelihood
of irreparable harm. In this case, applicants have failed to
carry that heavy burden. Counting every legally cast vote
cannot constitute irreparable harm. On the other hand,
there is a danger that a stay may cause irreparable harm
to the respondents— and, more importantly, the public at
large— because of the risk that "the entry of the stay
would be tantamount to a decision on the merits in favor
of the applicants."


i think this matter is not over by a long shot. at this time i no longer expect the attorneys and politicians to act with any shred of common sense, so in effect i am viewing this as a wrestling match where the most outrageous will attempt to impress the public for their approval.

i just hope that no fights amongst the gallery members erupts.

my concentration is now placed on the volatile markets that will come. fasten your seat belts and enjoy the ride.

p.s. er... grrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuuuuubbbbbbbbbb



To: opalapril who wrote (697)12/9/2000 6:50:03 PM
From: Mighty_MezzRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 6089
 
The counting of votes that are of questionable
legality does in my view threaten irreparable harm to
petitioner, and to the country, by casting a cloud upon
what he claims to be the legitimacy of his election.


Refusing to allow examination of the ballots which the machines failed to read has cast the cloud over any legitimacy dubya will try to claim.

Oral arguments are Monday the 11th. The Supremes, by this delaying tactic, have handed the election to Bush. Even if it turns out the Florida SC decision was constitutional, they're not leaving enough time to count before the legislature steps in to usurp the entire process.

Of course, I shouldn't be surprised - fixing elections runs in the family.

... Mezz -



To: opalapril who wrote (697)12/9/2000 6:51:53 PM
From: PoetRead Replies (2) | Respond to of 6089
 
Hi opalapril,

Thanks for posting that. I've been looking around for it.

Thread, I'll be travelling for the next week, but will have my laptop with me. I'll check in regularly, but my participation will be diminished.

Enjoy yourselves, and speak your minds without fear.