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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (109253)	12/10/2000 10:07:36 AM
From: Don Pueblo	Respond to of 769670

That is partially true. There is also the perception amongst many millions of voters that had ALL the votes been counted (like the over one million absentee ballots in California that never got counted for example) Bush would have won the national popular vote. just like he won the Florida popular vote TWICE. Additionally, there is the perception amongst many millions of voters that your 'court injected helper' argument didn't come up when it was the Florida Supreme Court, but only when the US Supreme Court decided to step up to the plate. Further, there is the perception amongst many millions of voters, both Republicans and Democrats, that lying, politically corrupt bastards like Gebhardt, Daley, and Gore should not be walking around calling the shots for them. (I'm just pointing out perceptions of other people, not saying I agree.)

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (109253)	12/10/2000 10:12:16 AM
From: Neocon	Respond to of 769670

On the contrary: POLL RELEASES December 6, 2000 Gore's Image Slipping as Election Contest Drags On Gore's unfavorable image now highest of Clinton/Gore era by Lydia Saad GALLUP NEWS SERVICE PRINCETON, NJ -- For the first time since Al Gore emerged in 1992 as Bill Clinton’s running mate for president, the vice president is now viewed unfavorably by a majority of American adults. Fifty-two percent of Americans interviewed in a new Gallup poll conducted December 2-4 have an unfavorable view of Gore, compared to 46% who view him favorably. Just prior to the November 7 election, Gore’s ratio of favorable-to-unfavorable ratings was much better: 56% to 39%. By contrast, attitudes about Republican nominee George W. Bush -- that were comparable to Gore’s at the time of the election -- have remained positive in the weeks since the election, with a majority continuing to view the Republican nominee favorably. Today 56% have a favorable opinion of Bush and only 40% have an unfavorable opinion, virtually the same as the weekend before the election. It seems clear that Americans’ increasingly critical view of Gore is related to their attitudes about his ongoing legal challenges to ballot counting in Florida. Shortly after the election -- and soon after the Gore legal team requested a hand-recount of votes in four Florida counties -- 52% of U.S. adults supported Gore’s handling of the election outcome. However, that support has fallen several points in each subsequent week according to Gallup polls, first to 48% in mid-November, then to 42% in late November, and to just 39% today. Three out of five Americans (60%) now disapprove of the way Gore and his campaign advisors are handling the election, including 24% who strongly disapprove. This is similar to the percent who now say the presidential election situation has gone on too long (63%) and who believe Gore should now concede (58%). Despite criticism of Bush by some Democratic leaders for moving too quickly into "transition" mode after the election, a majority of Americans continue to approve of the way Bush and his advisors have handled the election situation. In contrast to the downward trend in approval of Gore’s handling of the election situation, Bush’s positive levels have remained steady. Today, 57% of Americans approve of Bush’s handling of the election, similar to the 53% recorded shortly after November 7. The new poll finds Americans now prefer Bush to be the next president by a slim 46% to 40% margin. Nevertheless, most Americans seem willing to accept as the legitimate president whichever man is ultimately certified the winner. Eighty-five percent of Americans would accept Bush and a smaller, but still substantial, 71%, would accept Gore. Democrats Standing by Gore A review of trends in attitudes about Gore’s handling of the election situation finds that Democrats and other Gore voters continue to back Gore in large numbers while Bush voters and those with no preference tend to be critical of Gore, and are growing increasingly more so. Nearly four in five Gore supporters (79%) say they approve or strongly approve of the way Gore has handled the situation surrounding the election results. This is down slightly from the 85% of Gore voters who approved of Gore’s efforts initially, but still represents a solid endorsement of their candidate’s actions in Florida. These numbers demonstrating Gore’s strength among rank-and-file Democrats across the country may also help explain why Democratic leaders continue to rally around Gore despite the calls of some that he concede the election. By contrast, 91% of Bush supporters currently disapprove of Gore’s handling of the election results, compared to 80% who felt this way several weeks ago. And Bush voters are feeling increasingly firm about their disapproval, with 44% saying they strongly disapprove of Gore’s handling of the results, compared to 34% who strongly disapproved initially. Among those who have no preference about who wins the election, opinion of Gore tends to be negative, with 73% saying they disapprove of his handling of the election and only 26% approving. This, too, represents a decline in support for Gore compared to previous polling when only 50% of the neutral group disapproved of his actions. Lieberman Suffering As Well Al Gore’s vice-presidential running mate, Joseph Lieberman, has not been spared the public’s criticism in this post-election period, perhaps because of the high profile role he has taken in defending the Gore team’s challenge to the Florida election. When Lieberman was first announced as Gore’s selection for vice-president, he enjoyed highly favorable ratings from the public, with 58% viewing him favorably and only 12% unfavorably (the remaining 30% had no opinion of Lieberman at that early stage). Lieberman’s unfavorable rating rose to 23% in mid-November and is now 30%. Less than half of Americans, 47%, currently have a favorable view of him, while 23% continue to have no opinion. Over the same time period, ratings for the Republican vice-presidential nominee, Dick Cheney, have remained positive. Today, 58% of Americans have a favorable view of him and just 23% have an unfavorable view. Cheney may be benefiting from some public sympathy over his health problems since the election, although the fact that support for Bush has also remained fairly high in this period suggests that Cheney’s heart problems may not be a major factor sustaining his positive image. gallup.com

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (109253)	12/10/2000 11:00:06 AM
From: The Street	Respond to of 769670

<<by over 300,000 votes<< That is about .11% of the country. ROFLMAO....

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (109253)	12/10/2000 12:31:30 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The US Supreme Court has inflicted great damage to its credability by creating the perception it has injected itself into a contest for purpose of helping Bush. The USSC will rule in a manner that seems to be foreign to Gore and Boies and many of their supporters. That is, the US Constitution says what it says, facts are facts, and words mean precisely what they mean. They will put a stop to this outrageous assault on the principles that form the bedrock of our republic. When a pack of whores and weasels keep repeating lies over and over in an attempt to turn "perception" into "reality", cavalierly attempting to trash our constitutional foundation in a naked political power grab, it's high time to put a stop to it. Thoughtful Democrats, like the FSC Chief Justice, recognize the danger to our system through such assaults is much more important than partisan political gain. It's become clear through the events of the last month that Al Gore does not care how much scorched earth wreckage that he leaves behind in his attempt to take the White House at any cost. When he and his lawyers and some out of control judicial activists attack constitutionally mandated process, they are attacking me and all the other citizens of this wonderful country. I won't forget any time soon what's been happening.