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To: Czechsinthemail who wrote (4088)	12/10/2000 9:48:33 PM
From: who cares?	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 19633

(more OT) I'm sorry that you seem to be so uninformed, you state more of the flawed punchcard voting machines were employed in predominantly Democratic south Florida than elsewhere in the state. Since these machines simply didn't count many of the ballots Having used a punch card voting "machine" myself, whereas you obviously haven't, let me clear up your confusion. The punchcard voting "machine" doesn't count the votes. These voting machines are suitcases. You unfold them, put four legs on them, put a little screen around them for privacy, and then the ballot booklet is put into it, basically in a three ring binder kinda way. The voter goes in, with his punchcard, he slides it under the booklet in a nice little slot, just the right size, and pushes it all the way down until it will go down over two holes at the top. Then he opens the vote booklet, turns to page one, votes for whatever, turns to the next page, each page revealing a different row of punch holes, etc. When the voter is finished, he takes his punchard out of the booth/foldup suitcase, checks it to make sure the holes are cleanly punched, then he or she walks over and puts it in a ballot box the correct way. Then, these boxes are taken to some central place in the district to be run through a machine to count them. These machines are highly reliable, as punchcard readers have been around for decades in the computer field, and high accuracy was required of them, and I would imagine they are calibrated by running a batch of dummy ballots through them before the election. Obviously the machine kicks out bad ballots or we'd be sifting through millions of ballots trying to find them. I don't know for a fact, but i'd imagine these bad ones are probably fed back through the machine, and or are looked at and if it's obvious that the machine is screwing up, another would be used. These ballots that are in question aren't nice cleanly punched ballots that the machines couldn't read, instead they're screw-ups. Some idiot voted twice, didn't vote at all, couldn't fathom the punch concept, etc. Further proof that it's not the machine but the people is back at the start of all of this. I believe the poster I first posted to made a post about how Gore kept gaining, both in Democrat and Republican counties. Didn't matter if the goof-up votes came from a Gore area or a Bush area, Gore tended to pick up votes. It was this way on the first big statewide recount as well. Gore picked up votes even in Bush areas(which would have the latest greatest voting machines in your example), way more than the other way around. It's not just a Florida only thing, nationwide poor and therefor stupid people(I just worded it that way to further piss off the brilliant minds of this thread) tended to vote Gore's way. It's been that way for decades, the poor vote democratic, as well as the liberal elite(hypocrites) while the working man, the self made man tend to vote Republican. We can all cite examples to the contrary, but in general, these are facts. CMB, BIGOT n. One who is obstinately and zealously attached to an opinion that you do not entertain. Ambrose Bierce