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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (110383)	12/11/2000 11:12:01 AM
From: lawdog	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 769667

Kenneth, I'm seriously reconsidering my membership in the legal profession. The concepts and principles that made me go to law school are proving to be totally false. I'm rapidly becoming disillusioned with the justice system. .

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (110383)	12/11/2000 11:14:27 AM
From: dvdw©	Respond to of 769667

Ken weighs in with a Whopper to rival Burger King! eom

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (110383)	12/11/2000 11:24:21 AM
From: jlallen	Respond to of 769667

I don't think the law or the facts supports your statement. JLA

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (110383)	12/11/2000 11:35:55 AM
From: mph	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

Ken: A trial is supposed to be a search for the truth, true. I don't know about the "law being a search for the truth." How many times have you lost when you should have won and won when you should have lost? It happens everyday. I can't agree that "supressing" a vote count is a suppression of the truth. There is no absolute truth in the vote count in Florida. Tossing a coin would be as accurate. Too much subjectivity is required with respect to ballots that have not yielded a vote for President. That seems to be the core of the problem.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (110383)	12/23/2000 1:27:19 AM
From: Zoltan!	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

>>The law is supposed to be a search for the truth. As a trial lawyer, I have dedicated my life to that proposition. Yes, but when you search for the truth it's because you want to deny, defy and defeat it. That was AlGore's mission too. That's why he was nominated. >>That is why I am so upset when the US Supreme Court abandons hundreds of years of precedent to suppress the vote count and suppress the truth. Comprehension never has been your forte, denying the truth apparently is. Editorial: Four myths about Florida vote Tuesday, November 28, 2000 Daily News There is a proven technique for fooling many of the people much of the time. Every politician knows it, and quite a few lawyers, too, it turns out. The way it works is to repeat something false over and over and over again until, by the sheer force of repetition, people begin to believe it is true. In Florida following the presidential election, Al Gore's supporters have proven particularly adept at this technique, so that you can now find people all over the continent believing the following incorrect propositions are valid. The Gore camp wants a complete and accurate vote count in Florida. In fact, it has never legally pursued any such end. It has instead sought manual counts in heavily Democratic counties. By that means, it can enlarge the total votes for Gore, just as manual recounts in heavily Republican counties would likely enlarge the total for Bush. Counting slight indentations in paper ballots - the so-called dimples - is a widely accepted means of establishing voter intent. In fact, courts and election officials have mainly rejected counting dimples for a period of almost 40 years in states and election districts throughout the nation. Repeatedly and with relatively few exceptions, they have recognized that the method amounts to little more than mind-reading and is therefore illegitimate in determining an election's outcome. Rioters in Miami created a climate of fear that kept election officials from proceeding with a recount. In fact, TV has revealed mostly good-natured, reasonably behaved protesters exercising their constitutional right of free speech. No one has been hurt, not a single arrest has been made and the head of the Miami canvassing board, a Democrat, has been quoted as saying he never felt intimidated. The Florida Supreme Court, in tossing out the legislatively determined deadline for certifying votes, was trying to interpret murky law. In fact, the law says returns must be certified a week after the election and adds that the secretary of state, using her own reasonable discretion, may accept late returns. Nothing murky there, and it is absurd to argue as the court did that deadlines are rendered meaningless by someone's failure to meet them. As others have pointed out, the court was obliged in making its ruling to show a lower court ruling was "clearly erroneous." It did no such thing. naplesnews.com