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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Dave Gore who wrote (112041)12/12/2000 12:30:21 PM
From: Srexley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
"I have no big problem with Bush winning. I even think he would win if a recount was done using conservative standards"

True again. Then why do you think it is fair to make up standards as you go along? Or that it is ok to SUE canvasing boards who do not use your rediculous standards (like Broward)?



To: Dave Gore who wrote (112041)12/12/2000 12:33:43 PM
From: kvkkc1  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
I don't know if you have kids, but I didn't relish having to explain to mine how much of a disgrace the President of the United States was to our country. That stain will last for a long time. The media will pounce on anything and spin it into a scandal from here on out. This country is on the decline in world influence and it will take strong leadership to turn that around. I don't know if Bush is up to the task given what I have (more aptly haven't) seen the past month.knc



To: Dave Gore who wrote (112041)12/12/2000 12:35:19 PM
From: Gordon A. Langston  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
This was a guest editorial in my local newspaper, written by
T. Stephen Eastmond a teacher and astronomer PH.D. It paints a different picture than the Miami-Herald article of a few weeks back.

The Disputed Votes

Broward's hand recount results were included in the total vote certification on Nov. 26. In Broward disputed ballots there were 1146 votes for Gore (66.4%) and 579 votes for Bush (33.6%)

These percentages agree closely with the machine recount for Broward Co. where Gore received 386,561 votes (68.6%) and Bush received 177,323 votes (31.4%)

Bush actually did about 2% better in the disputed ballots than he did in the total county vote.

Palm Beach's hand recount results were not completed until after the Nov. 26 deadline, but the results are as follows.

In Palm Beach's disputed ballots, there were 515 votes for Gore (61.2%) and 327 votes for Bush (38.8%). Once again, these percentages agree closely with the machine recount for Palm Beach Co. where Gore received 269,732 votes (63.8%) and Bush received 152,951 (36.2%)

Again Bush did about 2% better in the disputed ballots than he did in the total county vote.

These numbers indicate that if all counties had the same type of voting machines and if all their disputed ballots were hand-counted the same way, Bush would almost certainly increase his earlier 930 vote lead.

To resolve the realities of different machines and other controversies the following assumptions are made.

Assume that in each county the Gore/Bush percentages from the disputed ballots match the Gore/Bush percentages from that county"s total machine count (as they did in Broward and Palm Beach.

Assume that all voters in the 16 counties won by Gore had to use punch-card machines and all the voters in th 51 counties won by Bush were able to use the optical scan machines.

Assume that a Gore county will have 4 times as many disputed ballots to count as a Bush county. Also assume that the uncounted disputed ballots are accepted at the same rate as in Broward Co. ( 0.3% of the total machine recount), where dimpled and pregnant chads were generously counted by the canvassing boards.

These assumptions are clearly biased towards Gore. They are deliberately designed to increase his share of the disputed ballots and reduce Bush's share.

Yet even with all these assumptions, if the disputed ballots of all 67 counties were hand-counted and added to the most recent machine re-count, Bush's lead in Florida would still be 432 votes.

This result can easily be confirmed using a simple tabulation of the data available.