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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TraderGreg who wrote (5890)12/12/2000 4:33:17 PM
From: Valley Girl  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Although the Bush legal team had to make that argument, even if it wasn't the real crux of the matter. Reason: to make any other argument would be to ask the lower courts to establish uniform standards for a recount, something virtually guaranteed to be ruled unconstitutional because it's tantamount to rewriting the law that was in place as of election day. Painted into a constitutional corner, they made the only argument that they thought would fly. It's pretty obvious that this troubled the FL SC as well - their ruling to include all counties in the new recount was clearly an attempt to institute a fair (by their lights, anyway, since throwing in the partial M-D results was a real stinker) recount, but they went out of their way not to set an objective standard, instructing the lower court to abide by the vague "voter intent" language. As I said before, whoever wrote that statute should have his/her bags packed!



To: TraderGreg who wrote (5890)12/12/2000 4:38:22 PM
From: Oral Roberts  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Sweet irony would now be for that self-admitted political hack, Bob Beckel, to find those three Bush electors.

That is kind of a scenario that nobody seems to be thinking about at this point. I suppose once the USSC ruling is done, assuming it goes for Bush, that will be the next headache.

What would happen if Gore were to concede and then his buddy Bob finds enough electoral voters to cross?

Jeff



To: TraderGreg who wrote (5890)12/12/2000 4:57:48 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
There are ballots all over the country which were cast for one candidate or another which never got tabluated into the final counted figures for one reason or another. Usually because the voter didn't follow the ballot instructions.

There will always be voters who go to the polls and fail to cast valid ballots.

The question is whether, when there has been no fraud or error (such as leaving hundreds of ballots out of the recount) and no failure in the voting machines, a group of partisan officials will be permitted to take those ballots, hold them up to their foreheads a la Karmak the Magnificent (I trust you are old enough to remember Johnny Carson) and without any standardize policies or practices say "this person really intended to vote for . . ."

We will continue to differ on this.

But even you, I think, can't deny that as far as we know every ballot which was cast in accordance with the voting instructions has been counted and recounted.



To: TraderGreg who wrote (5890)12/12/2000 5:15:35 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
I think the reason summary judgment wasn't granted was to allow a full record to be developed so the facts would be there if there was a reversal on the law. It happens in jury trials sometimes here that a judge will grant a motion to strike but still let the jury decide just in case the motion to strike is reversed. Saves money for the litigants, and here it helped the appellate courts understand what was going on.