To: Ilaine who wrote (112684 ) 12/12/2000 7:16:43 PM From: PartyTime Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 First off, let me make clear that I agree with the Florida high court's ruling that the Seminole and Martin County votes should count, unless a clear pattern of fraud was established, i.e., if there weren't real citizens behind the absentee ballot requests and if the GOP operatives didn't tamper into the voter database which was located where they did their work. The Court's ruling was consistent with every other ruling it has made relative to including votes and not subtracting votes. >>>Which county? I only watched the testimony for Seminole County, not Martin. In Seminole, both parties sent out preprinted cards. The Democrats had the request forms sent back to their campaign headquarters, for goodness sake!<<< Let's be clear here. Since you only watched Seminole County testimony, we'll deal with that case. Both parties set out to enlist members of their respective parties to participate in the election by filling out requests for absentee ballots. The Democrats had their voters send their request to Party headquarters where they were delivered to the voting office. Upon their delivery, they became official documents. Democrats never touched the documents once they became under the control of the County Voting Supervisor's office. The Republicans, on the other hand, had their members submit their requests for absentee ballots directly to the Voting Superivsors's office. But the GOPers bungled the job by failing to include in the request a provision for the Voter ID Number. Now, some of the Democrats failed to provide the Voter ID. Those requests were rejected and the ballots never mailed to the voter. The Republican supervisor, Sandra Goard, realizing the large number of errors on the Republican side, contacted the county party head, who made arrangements for operatives to come into her office and fix the ballot requests by supplying the Voter ID Numbers. Unfortunately, partisanship played a role here in that the supervisor never validated the Voter ID Numbers the GOP operatives included. In many instances, outright false numbers were transcribed onto the request forms. (see depositions and testimony of the trial.) The end result was that 550 Democrat ballots were rejected; and nearly 2,000 Republican ballots were accepted. Ironically, enough of a difference that it'd be Gore now in the lead with Bush now asking for a fair count. >>>I don't think anyone should be disenfranchised because of what I consider to be a technicality. If the Seminole and Martin ballots are all thrown out, the people disenfranchised will be black, white, old, young, Democrat, Republican, Independent, and disproportionately numbers of the disabled.<<< If you delete the Republicans from your above list, now you know who got disenfranchised in Seminole and Martin counties. Republicans got special treatment. >>>Not to mention that this would violate the Federal Voting Rights act and be summarily vacated by the United States Supreme Court.<<< I doubt you'll see such a stand by the highest court in the land. However, you'll no doubt be reading about numerous and severe Federal Votings Rights violations in months to come, especially where Florida's minority voters were concerned.