To: V$gas.Com who wrote (43665 ) 12/13/2000 4:33:16 PM From: ztect Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 44908 V?gas........................ Deals that don't work aren't necessarily fraudulant. Deals don't proceed in many businesses even small ones like mine. I've been telling people that I had a job renovating a large theater. The company for which I've worked for 5 years told be to go full speed ahead. That was until they told me that the company that bought them had their own consultants, and therefore I was told that I may not have the job after all. Did I lie to the people I told I had this job? Whenever you're a service company, you don't have control over he clients you served. This seemed to be the case with Max Biffi and Disney. The deal didn't pan out. Was this a lie? Or was it simply business? Regardless many, if not most, internets will fail even if they have a "deal" or two that apparantly worked or even if they posted tremendous revenues that didn't back out costs. Thus I have no objection to opposing points of view, but I do question language that speaks of halts and other hysteria without looking at what has occurred within the context of a very high risk and speculative sector in a very speculative market especially when the euphoria has worn off and the sector is out of favor. Like I wrote in my prior post, the charity model deals like Babe Ruth and Lifetime Learning weren't effective because IMO these deals depended upon a distributorship of local operatives. Tsig screwed this up partly due to lack of funds, and partly due to poor diligence in the acquisition of the original cd company. Regardless that history is well known and documented. That management is gone. However new deals with CoCa Cola and Penzoil have continued, and the b-model has shifted towards corporations with the realities of how money is or isn't going to be made through the internet. Tigi's structure may or may not be able to take advantage of this. That's the risk. I've changed my mind about many other highly speculative companies, I've stated my opinions, and then moved on. Here I still like the model, but I make no assertions that it will ever be profitable. I openly acknowledge that the company may fail. I'm not fanatical about it. On the other hand, you seem quite fanatical. You just seem to not be able to move on, and then feel the need to attack anyone and everyone who tries to understand what has occurred good and bad. You must have lost a lot of money you couldn't afford to lose to be so acrimonious or so it would appear. Again, just my opinion. z