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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: globestocks who wrote (6148)12/13/2000 5:44:13 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Respond to of 6710
 
LOL! The Democrats are too in love with themselves to be the progressive party this nation could use. Conservatives are too busy looking for biblical reasons to protect their God given right to horde everything they can.

Not only are you fresh out of college, you're just plain "fresh"***. <vbg>

Best, Ray :)

***I believe on the other side of the pond it's termed "cheeky".



To: globestocks who wrote (6148)12/13/2000 6:03:47 PM
From: bwanadon  Respond to of 6710
 
<I'm too fresh out of college to abandon ideals, since they have carried me this far. I don't plan to compromise any of them either.> None of us "plan" to compromise them, but don't be surprised if you end up somewhere other than you intended. And it won't necessarily be a result of compromising anything.

My political interests began in high school when I worked on the McGovern campaign. I also volunteered for Frank Church. Two men of impeccable integrity and compassion. They seem like giants in this regard when I compare them to the two major party candidates from this fall. I suppose McCain would measure up well in their company, though he seems a bit more hot-headed. But if they were running now I would be strongly opposed to most of their policies. I have evolved far from their political views. Views I held dearly when I was a young man.

I agree with many of the characterizations that you and Ray served up. Some are way too general (particularly the religious fanaticism angle).

Though I believe Nader to be a demagogue of the worst sort, you can see the unwarranted abuse that is heaped upon the idealists that voted for him. There aren't very many idealistic democrats in that crowd (the ones complaining about Nader). It is all (well, almost all) about the power with these professional politicians.

Economic disparity? I don't have the time right now to discuss this. May I suggest that you read The Road to Serfdom someday? I will eagerly read any book (under 300 pages!)you want to recommend that makes the case for the further expansion of social welfare programs and income redistribution.

just a thought

later



To: globestocks who wrote (6148)12/13/2000 6:05:11 PM
From: Ilaine  Respond to of 6710
 
If the Democrat party goes further left, look for more Republican political victories.



To: globestocks who wrote (6148)12/13/2000 7:37:15 PM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 6710
 
I'm too fresh out of college to abandon ideals, since they have carried me this far. I don't
plan to compromise any of them either.


that's okay. Lots of us were liberals at one point in the past -- I, for example, marched in the civil rights movement, was chair of my College civil rights committee, demonstrated against the draft and the Vietnam War, spent a summer on a commune farm, etc. (But never got into drugs at all -- it's simply not true that "everyone" used drugs. My friends and I had too much respect for our brains and bodies to use anything, including alcohol or tobacco.) So I'm living proof that you can be a flaming liberal in college and still mature as you mature.

Churchill probably said it best. "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart. Any man over 40 who is not a conservative has no brain."

There is a ton of truth in that statement. As you may well find out when you hit 40. But from what you say I assume you're under 30, so it's a good thing you're still a liberal.