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Technology Stocks : How high will Microsoft fly? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dave who wrote (54199)	12/14/2000 4:11:18 PM
From: David Howe	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74651

<< I can't think of a single market in which MSFT has succeeded that did not somehow leverage its OS monopoly. >> I totally disagree with this. Below I list a number of their products that I feel counter your argument. I purposefully did not include Windows Office (ie. word, excel, etc.) type products which might fall into the OS assisted category (debatable). I may have missed some, but you get my drift. How does the success of the following products relate back to the strong position MSFT has in OS? And if there is a relationship, is it really the reason they are now very successful in these areas? For the most part, these are products that have done quite well on their own (ie. Mac products). 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