To: straight-->arrow who wrote (119268 ) 12/17/2000 4:29:35 AM From: Jenna Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 120523 Sometimes They DON'T come back Right so you would have us NOT short NTIQ at 115 or TIBX going down from 70 and than go long nearly back up to there and once again short the 'overbought' rally, and watch it hit 70 and not short MOT on November 30 at 20 and watch it go down to 16, assuming you held and did not take that rather hefty loss, 2 weeks later you are back to 20. So you would not have us short BEAS much of November, buy it back in December and one of the first to see the upside as early as 9:35 on Friday. So we know when it is the proper time to go long without enduring all that downside. We might miss 5 or 8% but we are not taking losses of 60% to wait for them to come back.. because "Sometimes They DON'T come back" So which is the better trade? In that interim from November 30 until today. Those who entered too early were passengers on "The Ship of Fools" propagated by "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea" noises that we have reached a bottom 3 weeks ago by brokerages, money managers and mutual funds. We were short a dozen different companies and made quite little basket of money.. than we were long on the rallies of some of the TIBX-style stocks, made our money and then reshorted the rallies when they showed signs of 'short term overbought'last week, while those in MOT (those that weren't stopped out from 20 to 16) are back exactly as they were on November 30. Sorry but your money was NOT working for you. And while you were waiting for "Apolcalypse Now" we were playing "How to Be a Millionaire" on the short side. And if I decide to buy MOT say NOW at 20, I'd pay the same as you but in the interim my money worked for me while yours was either stopped out or went exactly back to your buy. On some level a lot of posters who are talking 'buy quality' are desparately in those quality stocks before they reached their bottoms and would say just about anything to get their investments back to break even. But we don't want to be "Shafted" by upgrades, stock picks by the Mutual Fund Managers. But we'd rather be playing "The Price is Right" and get the best bargain we can. We are not against QUALITY.. we are definitely for the strong earnings growth companies, but we don't feel buying them before a real bottom has been reached and losing 20-30% more on this so-called quality is the way to fly. We'll buy them soon enough, but when we are convinced the time is right and not because reverse psychology and what seems logical actual is. We are not "Bedazzled" by one day or 1 hour rallies. We wait until we see a LASTING change of trend rather than just a "Bounce". When that happens we'll buy our 'quality' but until that time we sure as heck will be be making money on the short side, on the long side, while investors are still playing "The Crying Game" amongst themselves.